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good evening datablock the smoke radio

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for da masses how you do it how you

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planets I'm the girl Jimmy Church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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very special night tonight tonight is

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broadcast number one one one one 1111

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joining us on this very special evening

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celebrating with us is John Greenwald of

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the black vault who broke one of the

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other year in ufology also maybe even on

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since then and if you have been

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videos even what does it talk science

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science talk that and and and CNN

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public and and there you go so it's a

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in the black vault broke one of the

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let's do a quick recap sir and

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congratulations congratulations this is

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record about the three UFO videos that

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aerial phenomena what they what they

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when I started pursuing this story it

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verified bona fide what they call you

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unidentified and essentially they have

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of whether or not these were ever

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released to the public I did

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specifically address and I believe you

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was on fade to black the emails that had

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within the Pentagon and there was kind

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of an open-ended question on whether or

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not the Navy chimed in and said yes we

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the videos that they were not supposed

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now the mainstream media in covering

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this and it is everywhere right now it's

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a headline on CNN this evening CNN has

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chosen to run with UFOs by the way in

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others and that goes for all the

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but there's quite a few I think you're

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doing a good job covering them but

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but they're all that well I flicked

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through the news because I do it you

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know I do a new segment each night on

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the show I'm always looking for

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headlines and I've got this in my face

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on every single mainstream outlet now

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that being said some of the mainstream

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they should be running with which is the

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Navy says that these are unidentified

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objects right yes half of them are

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ignoring the other part of the story

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which is that these shouldn't have been

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released that the Navy didn't authorize

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that LiveScience and I think space a

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couple of news outlets out there are

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covering that part of the story they are

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giving you all of the full credit that

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is amazing that they didn't ignore that

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part of it but that part of it is there

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now that then Brian bender today tweeted

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out or texted or posted it was sent to

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me and then I went to look to see if it

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was real and it was where he said man

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this is not news why is anybody caring

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about this they admitted to this two

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years ago and I'm like what why can't

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why can't people give credit where

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credit is due this is a great story it's

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an amazing story you broke it and leave

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it at that

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well I'll be honest with you Jimmy I

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mean I I don't like to sling mud or

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anything and that's not what I'm doing

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but Brian bender I believe is is

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dismissing the story because I broke it

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right and he has had a and anybody who

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follows the twitter exchanges can see

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this he blocked me simply because I had

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forwarded it out an article of other

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Pentagon statements that were shedding a

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negative light on Lois Elizondo namely

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the Pentagon's statement that he had no

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responsibilities on the a tip program

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and in short I mean III wrote mr. bender

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directly and said what you know like

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the reason why he blocked me there was

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no war or Twitter exchange or things

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that got heated it was that he

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did not like that part of the narrative

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and I think that what we're seeing now

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the feet that he just doesn't want to

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his tweet that is incorrect the Navy has

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never gone on the record there's never

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been any any addressing of those three

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videos other than the Pentagon

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statements that said that they were not

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cleared for public release now that

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it's an important part of the of the

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story that unfolded a couple months ago

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when I received that that information

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so I don't I really I don't know why

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he's he's saying that there was an Isis

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or global media and I don't want this

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show to turn into a gossip ya know I'm

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talking about me I don't want me to turn

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into a gossip thing but it does tick me

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off because I look at that and it was an

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unnecessary tweet there was no reason to

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tweet that if you don't have anything to

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say then don't say anything right but

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it's very unprofessional that being said

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I know that I have been critical I've

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been positive about T TSA I've had Tom

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belong in this program and others

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I've been positive about T TSA but I've

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I've wanted answers which I haven't

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gotten you have done the very same thing

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and then this this moment comes out

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where obviously this is a feather in TT

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essays cap yeah and it should be it

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should be I get that but zero

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acknowledgement right what how was their

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response been to the breaking of this

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story and the fact that you did it well

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today that that really was evident to

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preface to preface it really quick when

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I broke the story last September 10 I

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had written them and made them aware of

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it on the 8th or 9th it's not in front

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it and I reached out to them for comment

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saying this is what I've got this this

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is something big and

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ask them to address the UAP part and

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obviously the not for public release

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part that's part of the story you know

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like it or not that that is the official

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stance of the US Navy they acknowledged

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having received questions but then

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ignored me outright for a different

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story this one they ignored me outright

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so I know they get my messages and they

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they ignore it now I bring that up

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simply because of what a TTS a post

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today and it was this beautiful graphic

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of all the logos of all of the well not

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all of them but many of the mastheads of

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those media outlets that covered it and

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they were saying that TTS a had a great

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work and had a great day for their work

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and agenda and so on but yeah you're

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right no credit to who broke the story

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and I was very dismayed not because I

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want a pat on the back that's not what

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this is about but more so I think that

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that in my opinion they want to keep the

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line in the sand between people like me

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who are searching for the truth and then

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their side who only wants to give you

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the part of the truth that they want

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mm-hmm and as much as that might sound a

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little bit harsh I was really taken

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aback that they cannot give a nod to the

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source of this and and on the opposite

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end for more than a year and a half on

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fade to black I've done it with you on

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coast to coast just this last week I've

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done it in complemented TTS a where they

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deserve it and I believe that they've

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done good things that they deserve

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credit for certain things I've never

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hidden from that fact so I think that

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this has to be a two-way street where

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they acknowledged that questions have to

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be asked and then answered and instead

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they will ignore me and then Tom DeLonge

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post to 700,000 of his followers and

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said all of the statements that came out

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from the Navy is unprecedented I mean he

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obviously finds so much value in this so

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credit aside and that's fine if he

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doesn't want to give the blackballed

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credit that you know I broke the story

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on the 10th that's fine but let's talk

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about the power of official statements

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which he obviously now acknowledges and

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let's talk about those statements that

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he has ignored that may shed a negative

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light and

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that's the conversation that we need to

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have so we can get beyond this and move

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forward because this is big news you

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know this is really really big he sees

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it I see it you see it so we need to

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have a conversation and and as a UFO

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community if he wants to call it that as

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a collective conversation we'll call it

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that whatever he wants but I think we

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have to start asking ourselves why are

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they controlling what they want you to

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hear and then squashing the rest yeah

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that's something we need to do and here

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is the elephant in the room okay and

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this is where I will call it you can't

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have it both ways

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in other words you can't say that had

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that this part of what the Navy said is

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true this part about the videos not

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being officially released or authorized

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by the Navy for release and that

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everything that Lewis Elizondo has said

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is wrong in the email but you don't

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believe that part of the Navy statement

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just believe this part of the Navy

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statement and that you ignoring that and

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the the community and including

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mainstream media is not stupid you know

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and they totally recognize that part of

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it and it's so you just can't continue

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to pick and choose what you want the

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facts to be true and the ones that are

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not true and the ones that you're gonna

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put a spin on you can't have it both

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ways

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can you no you can't it's a selective

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belief system I call it a selective

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belief system that you only pick and

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choose what is going to help you and you

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dish dismiss or squash the rest and

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that's what's what's problematic in this

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debate and I take a lot of pride and the

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information I bring forward on the black

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vault simply because I don't hide

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anything and I give you a hundred

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percent of what I get now of course

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there's radio shows that I'll do or live

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streams or whatever and of course

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opinions will come along with that but

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where I have an opinion I state it as

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such other than that I give you a

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hundred percent of the evidence I don't

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agree with the whole controlling the

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narrative controlling the evidence and

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spewed spoon-feeding the public what

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they

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should or shouldn't see and you're

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making that call I just don't believe in

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that and today this morning when I saw

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those posts by TTS a and Tom DeLonge it

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was fairly telling I mean it was kind of

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you know it was kind of upsetting I I

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tried to reach out to them via Twitter

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because obviously they won't do it on

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email and tagged him and I said hey you

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know you guys even have to like this you

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know this is really good and it was kind

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of an olive branch so to speak like hey

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look let's work on this together you

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guys may not like me and that's fine but

401
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but as a whole not just me personally

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but as a whole we need to start looking

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at this stuff and working together to

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take the next step and yet they just

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kind of made it seem like this was a big

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day for them and and so on and then that

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was dismaying it really was because I'm

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sure that they don't want to share I

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want to bring John I mean let me

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interrupt you very rudely okay don't

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worry the the videos are cool the videos

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have been out there for a long time how

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they got released how that you know but

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they're but they're out there and and

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they created quite a stir

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that is paling in comparison to what you

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did what you did TTS a had nothing to do

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with you broke the story about the Navy

419
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admitting that those were unidentified

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aerial phenomena in that is a bigger

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story than the videos it's a bigger

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story than the videos TTS a didn't do

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squat and and for them to come out like

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that

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and and Tom knowing Tom knowing and the

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rest of the team over at ETS a knows

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that they're taking a crack at you yeah

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you know by doing that and and getting

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you know satisfaction and and and

430
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knowing that they control their

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marketing you know I'm this is this is

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these are the facts but no you can't

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because I'm pissed I'm gonna say

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something else

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take a deep breath for all of them for

436
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all of the critics that have been out

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there trolling you on Twitter trolling

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me on Twitter

439
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about everything that we have been

440
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dealing with together on these issues

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now are happy right and it's just like

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wait yeah you guys need to back up and

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and see the big picture here and what

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you broke was huge and it was bigger

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than the videos take it away John well I

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appreciate that I want to be fair to t

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TSA though in in this part of the

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conversation simply because those videos

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are there two or two of the three anyway

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because of them so they were the root in

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the heart of why I started pursuing the

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Navy anyway so I do want to give credit

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where credit is due and they brought

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those forward of but for pushing the

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Navy to put in an official label on them

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that is big I appreciate your kind words

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about how big the story is I'll let your

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audience you know really decide how big

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it is I personally feel it's big I I

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feel that it is a huge huge shot in the

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arm for their credibility for this part

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of the story

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sure but again you have so much more

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that is not being addressed and then

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that's where my criticism comes in to

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where why wouldn't someone from T TSA

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say look we're not going to comment on

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that part of the Navy comment but we

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want to throw in a you know a quote here

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because yes it is unprecedented that was

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Tom DeLong's word in his post why

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wouldn't you reach out or at least

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respond or say that I'm full of it or

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whatever and yet they just want to

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ignore it but when the mainstream media

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covers that development it's

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unprecedented and they essentially I

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don't want to say they took credit for

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it but more so just made it seem like

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well all of this was because of them and

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that's where I get frustrated because

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it's it's that's the controlling the

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narrative part that just doesn't make

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sense it doesn't jive with me it really

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doesn't I mean let's let's give the nods

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where they're where they're due and then

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move forward but to just kind of make it

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seem like hey we did this Haworth we're

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great where we're putting all this in

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order that's not true it was a month of

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hard work to work with the Navy and and

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and structure this story to lead the way

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to get these statements that labeled

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their videos you ApS now

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and again I appreciate you being humble

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about this but I know and I will go on

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the record here I know how much time

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that you have put in on this going back

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to December of 2017 and the dogged

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pursuit of the truth staying on the

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phone and emails with the Pentagon day

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in and day out trying to get the stories

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the timeline that you have put together

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with a tip and OSAP going back into the

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2000s is is hard hard work you didn't

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lose sight of it it stayed out in front

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of you and it's so easy to give up and

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just to stop and go do other things

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you've got a website you're writing

510
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books you're doing radio you're doing

511
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you're doing all of this stuff at the

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same time of this very important

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research and you never gave up part of

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the investigation helped reveal this and

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got them to the Pentagon the United

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States Navy to admit and put this stuff

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on the record that is because of you and

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your absolute relentless pursuit of the

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truth and I will give you all the

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accolades that you need John this is a

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huge story and the way that the

522
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mainstream media is responding to this

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in treating this because they realize

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how big of a statement this is coming

525
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out of the United States Navy it's huge

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it's here yeah and what one and I

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appreciate all of those kind words I

528
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really do I'm humbled that you that you

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feel that way and I will say this that

530
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some some of your listeners may or may

531
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not realize I'm not sure but there is

532
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such a power when it comes to an

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official statement when a government

534
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agency puts something in writing

535
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sometimes people's reaction will be what

536
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we already knew they were UFOs or you ap

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so what is this change and I can tell

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you as somebody who has filed now over

539
00:24:53,890 --> 00:24:51,740
9,000 Freedom of Information Act

540
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requests the power behind official

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statements means that you can now cite

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this in perpetuity you can cite this in

543
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:02,510
err no longer exists when it comes to

544
00:25:09,850 --> 00:25:06,290
legal arguments in FOIA requests FOIA

545
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:09,860
appeals and creating essentially

546
00:25:14,650 --> 00:25:12,650
evidence to show that the Navy now has

547
00:25:16,420 --> 00:25:14,660
gone on the record and said you ApS this

548
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:16,430
story will not dot the story itself may

549
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:17,840
die in the mainstream media meaning

550
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:19,850
it'll go away the news cycle will go on

551
00:25:25,540 --> 00:25:23,360
to something else but the the statements

552
00:25:27,010 --> 00:25:25,550
are indefinite unless they do a

553
00:25:29,530 --> 00:25:27,020
retraction which I don't see happening

554
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:29,540
and so you can utilize that now moving

555
00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:32,570
forward which I have in FOIA requests

556
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:35,030
and so on but that is putting it in

557
00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:37,970
writing I whether or not mr. Elizondo

558
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:39,710
really did had a tip or whatever with

559
00:25:45,670 --> 00:25:42,610
that debate all of that aside his word

560
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:45,680
does not have the same legal meaning or

561
00:25:50,380 --> 00:25:47,330
the legal standing as an official

562
00:25:52,990 --> 00:25:50,390
statement and that's why this is so big

563
00:25:55,870 --> 00:25:53,000
because now we can utilize this for

564
00:25:57,010 --> 00:25:55,880
future again FOIA requests cases and

565
00:26:00,780 --> 00:25:57,020
stuff like that to get more information

566
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:00,790
out so it's it's big in that regard okay

567
00:26:08,020 --> 00:26:04,880
the other part of this where do you

568
00:26:11,410 --> 00:26:08,030
where where do you see this leading next

569
00:26:14,260 --> 00:26:11,420
not only on the T TSA side but your

570
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:14,270
research and with the United States Navy

571
00:26:20,410 --> 00:26:17,360
it's not going to end here can we expect

572
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:20,420
more videos do you think that T TSA has

573
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:22,640
got something else these all of this

574
00:26:27,370 --> 00:26:24,770
stuff with T TSA is now a year and a

575
00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:27,380
half old right we've been kind of stuck

576
00:26:33,340 --> 00:26:30,950
in limbo with T TSA anything that has

577
00:26:35,950 --> 00:26:33,350
happened since then is has been because

578
00:26:39,340 --> 00:26:35,960
of you but where do you see this going

579
00:26:41,470 --> 00:26:39,350
next well it's obviously we're gonna

580
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:41,480
meet me personally and obviously

581
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:42,890
researchers are going to keep pushing to

582
00:26:47,380 --> 00:26:45,290
see what documents we can get and what

583
00:26:47,890 --> 00:26:47,390
videos but I will say this not to be a

584
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:47,900
buzzkill

585
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:50,480
the Navy has already issued statements

586
00:26:54,190 --> 00:26:52,310
that really is going to squash that and

587
00:26:56,770 --> 00:26:54,200
make it very very difficult despite how

588
00:26:58,810 --> 00:26:56,780
mind-blowing the last seven days has

589
00:27:01,210 --> 00:26:58,820
been with these with these statements

590
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:01,220
appearing with UAP admissions and stuff

591
00:27:05,050 --> 00:27:02,960
like that but the Navy has already

592
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:05,060
issued statements that details regarding

593
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:08,480
the cases will remain classified that

594
00:27:12,940 --> 00:27:10,640
the videos themselves albeit that they

595
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:12,950
are unclassified I did get them to admit

596
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:15,110
that in writing it doesn't matter they

597
00:27:19,539 --> 00:27:17,570
are sensitive enough to have not been

598
00:27:21,250 --> 00:27:19,549
released into the public domain that

599
00:27:23,769 --> 00:27:21,260
doesn't mean these three won't since

600
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:23,779
they've leaked out but my guess is with

601
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:26,210
those statements the ones that are not

602
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:28,970
as much fun to hear they have put kind

603
00:27:34,269 --> 00:27:32,000
of the squash on releasing any more

604
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:34,279
videos now I find that as a challenge

605
00:27:39,460 --> 00:27:37,610
that I will not have success getting

606
00:27:42,909 --> 00:27:39,470
videos out of public affairs I know that

607
00:27:43,509 --> 00:27:42,919
but through FOIA and appeals and stuff

608
00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:43,519
like that

609
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:45,740
you better believe I'm gonna be trying

610
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:47,690
my hardest and I'm already trying to get

611
00:27:52,750 --> 00:27:49,730
additional information documents

612
00:27:54,850 --> 00:27:52,760
photographs and videos that would be

613
00:27:57,460 --> 00:27:54,860
connect to the US Navy and again those

614
00:27:59,139 --> 00:27:57,470
official statements are as good as gold

615
00:28:01,149 --> 00:27:59,149
but I'm also branching out to other

616
00:28:03,009 --> 00:28:01,159
agencies as well or other branches I

617
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:03,019
should say which includes the United

618
00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:04,370
States Air Force and we'll see what we

619
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:06,830
can get thank you so much John and I

620
00:28:14,409 --> 00:28:11,510
agree with you that there's gonna be a

621
00:28:15,820 --> 00:28:14,419
much higher level of scrutiny and

622
00:28:20,259 --> 00:28:15,830
discretion when it comes to stuff like

623
00:28:26,889 --> 00:28:20,269
this that these got these got snuck out

624
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:26,899
of there right that was done it was you

625
00:28:32,409 --> 00:28:28,970
know what they made it out but this next

626
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:32,419
time around it's it's gonna be much much

627
00:28:36,879 --> 00:28:34,850
much more difficult unless they choose

628
00:28:38,379 --> 00:28:36,889
to release it on their own but they're

629
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:38,389
not gonna they're not gonna sign off on

630
00:28:44,259 --> 00:28:41,330
any requests training videos or whatever

631
00:28:45,850 --> 00:28:44,269
it's just not gonna happen uh yeah I

632
00:28:47,169 --> 00:28:45,860
don't see it and by the way really quick

633
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:47,179
cuz I know you got to go

634
00:28:52,690 --> 00:28:49,250
the Navy went on the record and said

635
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:52,700
that they did investigate the leak of

636
00:28:56,879 --> 00:28:55,130
the FLIR one or the tic-tac video that

637
00:28:59,860 --> 00:28:56,889
that was leaked on the internet back in

638
00:29:01,779 --> 00:28:59,870
2007 and it's a story in itself but it

639
00:29:03,850 --> 00:29:01,789
shows that the Navy is interested on

640
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:03,860
figuring out what happened to these

641
00:29:07,149 --> 00:29:05,570
videos now they opted not to pursue

642
00:29:09,580 --> 00:29:07,159
anything in that because there was just

643
00:29:10,899 --> 00:29:09,590
too many possibilities and essentially

644
00:29:12,610 --> 00:29:10,909
too many suspects they didn't say

645
00:29:14,169 --> 00:29:12,620
suspects but too many people that could

646
00:29:16,060 --> 00:29:14,179
have been the leaker I tried to get him

647
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:16,070
to go on the record about gimble and go

648
00:29:19,149 --> 00:29:17,570
fast whether or not they were

649
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,159
investigating it and they declined to

650
00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:22,159
comment so the this in my opinion the

651
00:29:26,380 --> 00:29:24,230
story is not over yet and I hope that T

652
00:29:28,450 --> 00:29:26,390
TSA decides to address that one day

653
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:28,460
about how these videos came out because

654
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:29,930
that does go to the heart of the

655
00:29:34,450 --> 00:29:32,810
credibility to this story part of it

656
00:29:36,340 --> 00:29:34,460
just got a shot in the arm with the

657
00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:36,350
credibility but other parts we still

658
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:38,840
need to get some answers well look when

659
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:42,490
you are when you're in a questionable

660
00:29:50,110 --> 00:29:46,250
content zone with like conspiracies and

661
00:29:54,130 --> 00:29:50,120
UFOs and the alien agenda you need to

662
00:29:57,730 --> 00:29:54,140
ride the fine line on the right side of

663
00:29:59,980 --> 00:29:57,740
truth yeah once you air in that your

664
00:30:03,730 --> 00:29:59,990
credibility is gone it's it's just gone

665
00:30:05,380 --> 00:30:03,740
it is too touchy too sensitive of an

666
00:30:07,690 --> 00:30:05,390
area you just can't get caught and

667
00:30:11,860 --> 00:30:07,700
that's that's it that's it thank you so

668
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:11,870
much now what's the deal are you going

669
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:14,210
to be doing some some more live

670
00:30:19,060 --> 00:30:16,730
streaming like you did earlier today I

671
00:30:20,890 --> 00:30:19,070
did earlier today I did one yeah we had

672
00:30:23,230 --> 00:30:20,900
a great time lots of people lots of

673
00:30:25,540 --> 00:30:23,240
phone calls but yeah I'll be doing more

674
00:30:28,030 --> 00:30:25,550
as more documents come in and and more

675
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:28,040
developments happen live streaming has

676
00:30:32,590 --> 00:30:29,510
been a great way to kind of reach out

677
00:30:33,970 --> 00:30:32,600
and also help others kind of understand

678
00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:33,980
what's coming in I don't have all the

679
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:35,630
answers and when I don't I admit it but

680
00:30:40,750 --> 00:30:39,170
but it's it's a great tool to be able to

681
00:30:42,790 --> 00:30:40,760
help others understand everything on

682
00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:42,800
what's going on so yeah lots of live

683
00:30:47,530 --> 00:30:45,590
streams podcasts and hopefully documents

684
00:30:49,030 --> 00:30:47,540
and new statements and then we'll level

685
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:49,040
get some new articles out there now

686
00:30:53,530 --> 00:30:51,110
really quick I've got 20 seconds I want

687
00:30:55,180 --> 00:30:53,540
everybody to know where they can go and

688
00:30:58,140 --> 00:30:55,190
get all of this information of course

689
00:31:01,180 --> 00:30:58,150
there is Twitter with black vault comm

690
00:31:04,090 --> 00:31:01,190
you've got black fault and you over on

691
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:04,100
Facebook are the live streams and all of

692
00:31:09,820 --> 00:31:07,130
your other media outreach is it on the

693
00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:09,830
black vault comm that is yeah that is

694
00:31:13,510 --> 00:31:11,480
the best way to keep in contact the

695
00:31:16,330 --> 00:31:13,520
black vault comm and all the social

696
00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:16,340
network are linked from there everything

697
00:31:21,130 --> 00:31:19,670
that you will essentially need to keep

698
00:31:22,990 --> 00:31:21,140
in contact with the black vault it is

699
00:31:26,290 --> 00:31:23,000
right there on the blackboard comm thank

700
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:26,300
you so much John I see a Pulitzer in any

701
00:31:30,790 --> 00:31:28,310
of her future have a great night thank

702
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:30,800
you so much hey you too anytime

703
00:31:36,970 --> 00:31:33,890
John Greenwald the black vault show

704
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:36,980
number one one one one doesn't get any

705
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:37,970
better than that

706
00:31:41,950 --> 00:31:41,570
huge huge story all right this is fade

707
00:31:43,450 --> 00:31:41,960
to black

708
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:43,460
I'm your host Jimmy Church I'm gonna get

709
00:31:49,090 --> 00:31:46,130
out of here coming up next actor

710
00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:49,100
comedian researcher Rhys Darby

711
00:32:10,110 --> 00:31:50,700
stay with us I'll be right back

712
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:12,899
all right welcome back fade to black I

713
00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:14,409
am your host Jimmy Church you can follow

714
00:32:17,789 --> 00:32:15,880
me on Twitter I teach a church radio

715
00:32:20,850 --> 00:32:17,799
email is Jimmy and Jimmy church radio

716
00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:20,860
calm very simple tonight it's a very

717
00:32:28,850 --> 00:32:25,870
special broadcast it is show number 1111

718
00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:28,860
1111 one one one one we didn't celebrate

719
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:32,559
1000 now we didn't do it we chose to

720
00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:35,289
wait until tonight one one one one and

721
00:32:41,070 --> 00:32:38,230
tonight we have Rhys Darby with us

722
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:41,080
tomorrow night's Fator night open lines

723
00:32:44,370 --> 00:32:42,610
all night long so you can call in

724
00:32:45,450 --> 00:32:44,380
tomorrow night say congratulations and

725
00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:45,460
all that stuff we'll save that for

726
00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:47,409
tomorrow night tonight it's Rhys Darby

727
00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:49,840
best known as Murray from HBO's Flight

728
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:52,270
of the Conchords most recently Rhys

729
00:32:56,460 --> 00:32:54,130
appeared in Jumanji welcome to the

730
00:32:58,260 --> 00:32:56,470
jungle alongside Dwayne Johnson Kevin

731
00:33:00,799 --> 00:32:58,270
Hart and Jack Black he's currently

732
00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:00,809
working on a sequel to Jumanji alongside

733
00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:02,799
many of the original cast

734
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:05,230
additionally Rhys appeared in Jermaine

735
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:08,799
Clement and Tyco whitey DS what we do in

736
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:10,809
the shadows one of the funniest movies

737
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:11,440
ever by the way

738
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:14,289
and hunt for the wilderness made his

739
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:16,720
feature film debut in yes man with Jim

740
00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:18,340
Carrey and opposite Philip Seymour

741
00:33:24,810 --> 00:33:21,279
Hoffman in Richard Curtis pirate radio

742
00:33:27,330 --> 00:33:24,820
on the TV side Rhys stars in TBS wrecked

743
00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:27,340
currently shooting its third season Rhys

744
00:33:33,779 --> 00:33:29,980
also occurs on Netflix a series of

745
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:33,789
unfortunate events but he's also the

746
00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:36,610
host of the semi regular podcast called

747
00:33:40,649 --> 00:33:38,620
the cryptid factor with David Ferrier

748
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:40,659
and Leon buttons Kirk back

749
00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:43,090
it's about cryptozoology and other weird

750
00:33:48,180 --> 00:33:46,270
stuff you know like UFOs and I would

751
00:33:48,990 --> 00:33:48,190
like to welcome to Veda black for the

752
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:49,000
first time

753
00:33:56,460 --> 00:33:52,210
Rhys Darby Reese good evening good

754
00:33:59,490 --> 00:33:56,470
evening all right no all right hold on

755
00:34:01,680 --> 00:33:59,500
before we get before we let go here you

756
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:01,690
get the first-time guests disclaimer

757
00:34:08,849 --> 00:34:04,080
Rhys so let's get that out of the way

758
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:08,859
you ready yeah sure it is this it's you

759
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:10,960
and I sitting on my couch having a

760
00:34:14,579 --> 00:34:12,730
conversation as friends and where that

761
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:14,589
conversation starts it starts where it

762
00:34:17,070 --> 00:34:16,510
ends it ends but we're gonna end as

763
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:17,080
friends

764
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:20,639
there you go disclaimer done you ready I

765
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:23,350
love it Rhys

766
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:26,950
I have to start I have to start with one

767
00:34:32,909 --> 00:34:28,810
of the most basic questions that we can

768
00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:32,919
but you know being an actor being a

769
00:34:38,730 --> 00:34:35,350
comedian that's that's the side that the

770
00:34:43,409 --> 00:34:38,740
public knows you taking the turn that

771
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:43,419
you have with the cryptid factor and all

772
00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:46,960
things unexplained where did that have

773
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:49,720
you always been into this and this is

774
00:34:58,380 --> 00:34:52,330
just the opportunity to finally come out

775
00:35:02,130 --> 00:34:58,390
of the closet well you know what yes I

776
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:02,140
have always been into it always had a

777
00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:04,780
fascination with the unknown and you

778
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:06,670
know I never really heard that from

779
00:35:13,830 --> 00:35:09,280
anybody anyone who knew me knew that I

780
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:13,840
was a purveyor of the weird fourteen

781
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:16,570
magazines you know this cut this type of

782
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:19,450
thing right so when I I just pursued my

783
00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:20,320
career

784
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:23,460
predominantly comedy because it was my

785
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:28,000
obsession still is I love it I you know

786
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:32,170
I do it naturally I've been laughed at

787
00:35:38,250 --> 00:35:35,110
my entire life Jimmy whether I like it

788
00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:38,260
or not whether whether I've done it on

789
00:35:42,690 --> 00:35:40,750
purpose or just at school by you know

790
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:42,700
saying something weird people have

791
00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:45,310
laughed and I haven't really necessarily

792
00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:47,950
used it as a coping mechanism for any

793
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:49,630
reason although I certainly can

794
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:51,760
I may have on occasion without thinking

795
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:56,050
about it I mean I have a fast wit my

796
00:36:01,110 --> 00:35:58,240
guns of wit as I used to call them and I

797
00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:01,120
pull them out and sure you know that

798
00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:02,500
it's actually more of a whip they're my

799
00:36:08,010 --> 00:36:05,500
whips of wit maybe right as you can see

800
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:08,020
my my guns aren't working tonight but

801
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:12,160
yes we're laughing the audience is right

802
00:36:18,990 --> 00:36:15,490
there but I I get that part of it and

803
00:36:20,850 --> 00:36:19,000
then there's the other side I like to

804
00:36:22,770 --> 00:36:20,860
think let me just say this let me get

805
00:36:25,410 --> 00:36:22,780
this out of the way I'm sure that you

806
00:36:28,650 --> 00:36:25,420
get frustrated with people coming up to

807
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:28,660
you trying to be funny because they know

808
00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:30,250
that you're funny so they want to whip

809
00:36:34,589 --> 00:36:33,070
out their comedic wit and and you got to

810
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:34,599
deal with that crap

811
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:38,880
time I like to think that I am funny

812
00:36:45,019 --> 00:36:42,970
right but in this zone and I'm talking

813
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:45,029
about the conspiracy the UFO community

814
00:36:51,150 --> 00:36:48,880
they take it very very serious and I

815
00:36:53,609 --> 00:36:51,160
have cracked jokes on stage you have

816
00:36:57,329 --> 00:36:53,619
seen me you've heard you know and I try

817
00:37:00,089 --> 00:36:57,339
to lighten you know this tense mood that

818
00:37:02,370 --> 00:37:00,099
everybody is under right and they have

819
00:37:05,789 --> 00:37:02,380
come up to me and said dude

820
00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:05,799
no jokes that's not funny this is a very

821
00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:10,660
serious subject right right exactly

822
00:37:19,950 --> 00:37:15,180
now have you heard any of this criticism

823
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:19,960
not personally because you know my my

824
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:21,970
podcast the cryptid factor which has

825
00:37:27,479 --> 00:37:24,970
been running for 10 years you know we

826
00:37:31,289 --> 00:37:27,489
started off being funny now we started

827
00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:31,299
on a dance music station we were on an

828
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:33,880
actual radio station Saturday mornings

829
00:37:39,749 --> 00:37:36,609
8:00 till 10:00 and this is a station in

830
00:37:43,499 --> 00:37:39,759
New Zealand it was it's still around

831
00:37:45,089 --> 00:37:43,509
it's called George just an odd name it's

832
00:37:47,309 --> 00:37:45,099
a great station by the way but even like

833
00:37:50,609 --> 00:37:47,319
ten years ago it was not as good as it

834
00:37:59,789 --> 00:37:50,619
is now it was mainly dance music so I'm

835
00:38:02,249 --> 00:37:59,799
talking about you know the that kind of

836
00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:02,259
stuff right and so you got a lot of

837
00:38:05,999 --> 00:38:04,390
people out all night and into the

838
00:38:07,979 --> 00:38:06,009
morning still dancing still you know

839
00:38:08,759 --> 00:38:07,989
doing still up to no good you know what

840
00:38:11,249 --> 00:38:08,769
I mean right

841
00:38:12,509 --> 00:38:11,259
and so and then eight o'clock I mean why

842
00:38:14,729 --> 00:38:12,519
did they give us this I don't know

843
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:14,739
because of arbors already a celebrity of

844
00:38:19,319 --> 00:38:16,930
sorts back then certainly in New Zealand

845
00:38:21,479 --> 00:38:19,329
you know a big a big player a major

846
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:21,489
player in the entertainment field so I

847
00:38:25,979 --> 00:38:23,410
said look I've got a show and they went

848
00:38:28,019 --> 00:38:25,989
yes yes mr. Dobby please I don't think

849
00:38:30,959 --> 00:38:28,029
they even read the synopsis I came in

850
00:38:33,329 --> 00:38:30,969
with my mates buttons and David farrier

851
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:33,339
and we have the show called the cryptid

852
00:38:39,299 --> 00:38:36,640
Factor where we discuss the unusual the

853
00:38:42,589 --> 00:38:39,309
wonderful weird stories the weekly world

854
00:38:45,029 --> 00:38:42,599
weird news and focusing in on of course

855
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:45,039
cryptozoology for two hours in the

856
00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:46,960
morning and you should have seen the

857
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:48,580
amount of emails and complain

858
00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:52,240
it's the harassment we received from the

859
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:54,070
general you know who were kind of into

860
00:38:59,970 --> 00:38:57,040
this music and still probably dancing

861
00:39:01,950 --> 00:38:59,980
and doing other things as you know and

862
00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:01,960
so they're sort of going but what is

863
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:05,740
this BS you know and so um one of the

864
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:07,330
one of the emails a famous one that

865
00:39:13,860 --> 00:39:10,930
we've now used almost as a motto is stop

866
00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:13,870
encouraging BS and I'm not sure

867
00:39:17,010 --> 00:39:15,430
Jimmy whether I can swear at all on this

868
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:17,020
station so I'm you know using the

869
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:20,110
initials and sure but yeah so that stop

870
00:39:25,950 --> 00:39:22,690
stop encouraging BS and of course that's

871
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:25,960
not BS to me or to my friends or to

872
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:28,090
people that are into the stuff and so

873
00:39:31,050 --> 00:39:29,650
that became a motto y'all you we're

874
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:31,060
gonna keep encouraging at my friend

875
00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:33,010
we're gonna encourage this thing till

876
00:39:37,410 --> 00:39:35,320
the cows not only come home but till

877
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:37,420
they hover up into the sky and end up

878
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:40,960
disappearing in a saucer that's how long

879
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:42,400
we're gonna keep doing this until we can

880
00:39:48,450 --> 00:39:45,280
witness that and and prove it so yeah

881
00:39:51,450 --> 00:39:48,460
I've done it for ten years and this the

882
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:51,460
the the I'm sort of running away with my

883
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:53,610
my story here now but just to finish off

884
00:40:00,000 --> 00:39:57,610
this little piece you know the the the

885
00:40:01,830 --> 00:40:00,010
radio show which then we got fired from

886
00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:01,840
that station because because of the

887
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:04,150
complaints we moved to a student station

888
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:06,910
which then became a podcasters was the

889
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:08,530
back in the day when podcasting just

890
00:40:12,750 --> 00:40:10,330
became a thing and so we started

891
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:12,760
recording our show and then putting it

892
00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:14,410
out on the Internet and then we moved

893
00:40:19,170 --> 00:40:16,510
into another station another another

894
00:40:21,810 --> 00:40:19,180
radio station which was in a shopping

895
00:40:23,850 --> 00:40:21,820
mall near my house and I moved there

896
00:40:25,170 --> 00:40:23,860
because it was more convenient but we

897
00:40:27,540 --> 00:40:25,180
did have a lot of people walking through

898
00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:27,550
you know on their way to the supermarket

899
00:40:31,740 --> 00:40:29,830
or the to buy a pair of shoes and would

900
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:31,750
be in the middle of the mall discussing

901
00:40:37,950 --> 00:40:34,720
Bigfoot and the latest whereabouts of

902
00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:37,960
you know Nessie and lizard men and

903
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:39,160
things and people would stop and go

904
00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:41,530
excuse me you the information booth we

905
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:43,390
just need to know where they and the

906
00:40:50,910 --> 00:40:48,010
lower car Parkers and it was just crazy

907
00:40:55,890 --> 00:40:50,920
but you know what it's being amongst the

908
00:40:59,970 --> 00:40:55,900
real world and getting this this truth

909
00:41:02,460 --> 00:40:59,980
this unknown but definitely real

910
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:02,470
phenomena that people experience out

911
00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:05,170
to the public light and it does help

912
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:07,990
that I'm a comic I'm an actor but people

913
00:41:12,510 --> 00:41:10,810
know from the tone of the show that you

914
00:41:15,770 --> 00:41:12,520
know we are into it we're hobbyists

915
00:41:18,089 --> 00:41:15,780
enthusiasts and then we talk to

916
00:41:20,099 --> 00:41:18,099
scientists and and and a lot of

917
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:20,109
eyewitnesses about you know the sort of

918
00:41:24,810 --> 00:41:23,200
stuff we're dealing with and initially

919
00:41:27,210 --> 00:41:24,820
we thought oh we have we got enough to

920
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:27,220
fill two hours you know each week and by

921
00:41:33,290 --> 00:41:29,650
hokey as you know you've got enough to

922
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:33,300
fill in two hours every two hours of

923
00:41:41,609 --> 00:41:36,310
with this type of fascination and this

924
00:41:45,089 --> 00:41:41,619
this this wonderment we just you're

925
00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:45,099
you're aware tonight is show number 1111

926
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:48,310
for us and we broadcast three hours a

927
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:51,010
night live then I'm you know hosting

928
00:41:57,780 --> 00:41:52,510
coast-to-coast over on the weekends

929
00:42:00,060 --> 00:41:57,790
that's a four hour show and every every

930
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:00,070
show is better than the last it's more

931
00:42:06,359 --> 00:42:03,040
informed there's always something huge

932
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:06,369
to talk about and it never ends and now

933
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:08,560
I actually want to back up for a second

934
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:10,810
let's put the car in reverse and I'm not

935
00:42:17,310 --> 00:42:12,730
trying to be funny let's literally put

936
00:42:19,410 --> 00:42:17,320
the car in reverse I was you know the

937
00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:19,420
audience knows you and especially when

938
00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:21,880
you think of you know what we do in the

939
00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:23,950
shadows you know and and you think of

940
00:42:30,510 --> 00:42:26,140
something like that in reference to you

941
00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:30,520
and you're the funny guy but your

942
00:42:38,130 --> 00:42:34,750
knowledge of these subjects is is is is

943
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:38,140
very deep and you and I have had you

944
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:39,910
know some pretty lengthy conversations

945
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:42,490
about this and I was very very impressed

946
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:45,670
every zone that we went into your your

947
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:48,250
well researched how do you thank you

948
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:51,040
well how do you choose to do that you

949
00:42:55,230 --> 00:42:53,200
know are you well like I said it's a

950
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:55,240
hobby you know and it's it's like

951
00:43:00,030 --> 00:42:57,450
anything that you're into if you're into

952
00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:00,040
go-karting or kites

953
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,080
you know you'll you'll get into it and

954
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:05,200
for me I've just always been into the

955
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:08,050
weird and I don't know why but you ask

956
00:43:12,329 --> 00:43:10,050
anyone who really loves the weird and

957
00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:12,339
there's something about them that is

958
00:43:16,380 --> 00:43:14,470
possibly weird but that and that's why

959
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:16,390
they kind of configure to it and

960
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:18,609
me I've always felt weird always felt

961
00:43:25,319 --> 00:43:21,849
out of place as a person and so the kind

962
00:43:27,509 --> 00:43:25,329
of I've been being drawn to it and the

963
00:43:30,029 --> 00:43:27,519
more I get drawn into it the more I'm

964
00:43:32,009 --> 00:43:30,039
fascinated with it and I and I love the

965
00:43:34,019 --> 00:43:32,019
idea I'm also into adventure and

966
00:43:36,569 --> 00:43:34,029
exploration and I love the idea as

967
00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:36,579
humans that we haven't solved it all yet

968
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:39,460
and we're not we don't know why here and

969
00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:41,680
we need to find it out and we've only

970
00:43:46,799 --> 00:43:44,980
got 80 plus years if you're lucky mmm to

971
00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:46,809
sort of get to a point where you might

972
00:43:50,819 --> 00:43:48,430
think you know it and then you're gone

973
00:43:52,769 --> 00:43:50,829
and do you come back where do you go I

974
00:43:55,259 --> 00:43:52,779
mean it's just a lot of people the

975
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:55,269
people who aren't into this Jimmy they

976
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:57,970
blow my mind because what are they doing

977
00:44:01,950 --> 00:44:00,880
I mean working 9:00 to 5:00 or whatever

978
00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:01,960
I know they're working hard they're

979
00:44:07,380 --> 00:44:04,390
supporting their families they're there

980
00:44:10,289 --> 00:44:07,390
they're living but are they really using

981
00:44:12,450 --> 00:44:10,299
all of their brainpower to sort of I

982
00:44:14,670 --> 00:44:12,460
don't know try and solve the riddle that

983
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:14,680
we're that we're living in and and

984
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:16,930
that's something I'm trying to do a

985
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:20,049
sense of wonder is the other half of

986
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:22,930
life you know that that's it

987
00:44:31,859 --> 00:44:26,710
yeah I can't imagine not pondering the

988
00:44:33,779 --> 00:44:31,869
significance of it all just sort of

989
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:33,789
palming it off like like laughing at it

990
00:44:41,249 --> 00:44:38,250
and yeah that's just rubbish or houki is

991
00:44:43,470 --> 00:44:41,259
okay i just rudely interrupted you but i

992
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:43,480
want to get to actually a couple of easy

993
00:44:53,819 --> 00:44:47,680
specific things have you have you seen

994
00:44:57,150 --> 00:44:53,829
something crypto well that's a difficult

995
00:45:00,240 --> 00:44:57,160
one I'd love to say yes and it pains me

996
00:45:03,150 --> 00:45:00,250
because I've been out on various

997
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:03,160
expeditions not as many as I would like

998
00:45:08,460 --> 00:45:05,650
but certainly ones that have been able

999
00:45:10,410 --> 00:45:08,470
to afford to to put as part of a cryptid

1000
00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:10,420
factor pilot or it's a paid thing with a

1001
00:45:14,940 --> 00:45:12,220
production company or I've been sent out

1002
00:45:17,940 --> 00:45:14,950
for example what I'm trying to say is as

1003
00:45:19,980 --> 00:45:17,950
a as a as a hobby guy on my own if I

1004
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:19,990
could if I wasn't married with two kids

1005
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:22,240
and in there in the formative years I'd

1006
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,490
be out on you know in my Jeep on a

1007
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:26,880
regular basis doing this but

1008
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:29,710
unfortunately life gets ahead of you and

1009
00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:30,400
and takes

1010
00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:32,230
you've got a you've got to do what you

1011
00:45:35,610 --> 00:45:34,300
got to do so therefore I I try and

1012
00:45:37,170 --> 00:45:35,620
squeeze in I mean that was the whole

1013
00:45:39,150 --> 00:45:37,180
point of getting the cryptid factor was

1014
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:39,160
that I had an excuse to meet up once a

1015
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:41,650
week with my like-minded friends and and

1016
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:44,110
try and tackle this huge subject matter

1017
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:45,760
and then we were lucky enough to

1018
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:49,290
actually talk some cash in a bowl and

1019
00:45:58,410 --> 00:45:53,170
and and being able to go off and and

1020
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:58,420
look for things and now the by way of

1021
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:00,400
like making something with cameras I'm

1022
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:02,530
talking you know in the hope of

1023
00:46:08,010 --> 00:46:06,880
recording something long story short the

1024
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:08,020
last time we went out and we were

1025
00:46:15,390 --> 00:46:10,090
looking we were looking for Thunderbirds

1026
00:46:17,580 --> 00:46:15,400
and my wife saw a cryptid so she is so

1027
00:46:20,430 --> 00:46:17,590
you know she's your classic non-believer

1028
00:46:25,620 --> 00:46:20,440
putting up with her husband scenario why

1029
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:25,630
is it it's always them right she saw an

1030
00:46:34,110 --> 00:46:28,560
alien big cat okay an ABC you go big

1031
00:46:36,330 --> 00:46:34,120
like a panther I'm completely out of and

1032
00:46:37,770 --> 00:46:36,340
and so did differend and they just

1033
00:46:39,090 --> 00:46:37,780
almost didn't even think anything of it

1034
00:46:41,010 --> 00:46:39,100
they went oh that's a big cat that's

1035
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:41,020
weird why is that and then I talked to

1036
00:46:44,940 --> 00:46:42,640
her later and then she went and weird

1037
00:46:46,770 --> 00:46:44,950
part was after she saw it it almost her

1038
00:46:49,950 --> 00:46:46,780
and her friend almost forgot about it

1039
00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:49,960
that's how nonchalant some people are in

1040
00:46:55,350 --> 00:46:52,150
terms of the fact that if you and I saw

1041
00:46:57,930 --> 00:46:55,360
something anything of real stature you

1042
00:47:00,480 --> 00:46:57,940
know we we would our eyeballs would be

1043
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:00,490
like solid for a day and we would talk

1044
00:47:03,930 --> 00:47:02,050
to everyone but the fact is she won't I

1045
00:47:07,110 --> 00:47:03,940
almost forgot about that yeah so yeah I

1046
00:47:09,450 --> 00:47:07,120
think was a black panther which which

1047
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:09,460
you know we were in Arizona I think at

1048
00:47:18,810 --> 00:47:14,290
the time but anyway I've seen UFOs very

1049
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:18,820
high up in in space in Loch Ness of all

1050
00:47:23,550 --> 00:47:20,800
places now obviously I was there to look

1051
00:47:25,890 --> 00:47:23,560
for Nessie but we did go out on the Loch

1052
00:47:29,010 --> 00:47:25,900
and we used this one of the sonar boats

1053
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:29,020
and we certainly found a lot of eels

1054
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,330
very deep down which in recent times

1055
00:47:35,490 --> 00:47:33,520
anyone who's into cryptozoology would

1056
00:47:39,420 --> 00:47:35,500
know that the the latest very strong

1057
00:47:43,170 --> 00:47:39,430
theory is that it is a giant eel and so

1058
00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:43,180
are all the lake and sea monsters that

1059
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:44,260
people discuss

1060
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:45,850
so I thought to myself oh yeah there's

1061
00:47:49,130 --> 00:47:47,530
something there and I thought it may

1062
00:47:52,140 --> 00:47:49,140
have been a giant yell at that point but

1063
00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:52,150
yeah so that's my that's my my UFOs and

1064
00:47:55,410 --> 00:47:53,950
I've seen them you know on UFO

1065
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:55,420
conferences where you've been there

1066
00:47:59,760 --> 00:47:56,800
using the night-vision goggles and

1067
00:48:05,040 --> 00:47:59,770
that's that's the only and you know that

1068
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:05,050
is that is a legit and and you can see

1069
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:07,690
those quite often you know but I haven't

1070
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:10,450
seen anything close close to the earth

1071
00:48:14,970 --> 00:48:12,609
and then the only other things I've seen

1072
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:14,980
are unfortunately and I'm gonna say that

1073
00:48:18,780 --> 00:48:16,570
I mean you know people are loved ghosts

1074
00:48:21,390 --> 00:48:18,790
I'm not a big fan but yeah I've seen and

1075
00:48:27,150 --> 00:48:21,400
felt the presence of two ghosts

1076
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:27,160
situations talk UFOs and Bigfoot and

1077
00:48:32,849 --> 00:48:29,650
Nessie so much on this show I don't

1078
00:48:35,250 --> 00:48:32,859
cover ghosts as much I'm very interested

1079
00:48:37,740 --> 00:48:35,260
what did you see okay

1080
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:37,750
well and I think it's great that you

1081
00:48:42,990 --> 00:48:40,290
don't cover ghosts as much because

1082
00:48:44,670 --> 00:48:43,000
there's almost too much coverage on the

1083
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:44,680
ghost situation always has been I

1084
00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:47,170
thought no it's not to say you know I

1085
00:48:52,830 --> 00:48:48,790
know there's some ghosts easy out there

1086
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:52,840
that you know love them for me never

1087
00:48:56,940 --> 00:48:54,400
been a big fan maybe because there's a

1088
00:49:01,370 --> 00:48:56,950
bit of fear in it for me I'm like thank

1089
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:01,380
you I'm a natural yep I'm right with you

1090
00:49:04,740 --> 00:49:04,090
okay I mean I can handle like a

1091
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:04,750
sasquatch

1092
00:49:12,210 --> 00:49:10,000
I can I can see you know a giant sea

1093
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:12,220
serpent and go okay that's a tangible

1094
00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:14,290
thing that shouldn't be there and the

1095
00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:16,030
other thing with cryptozoology is out of

1096
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:19,270
place animals whereby you're seeing like

1097
00:49:23,550 --> 00:49:21,520
this the the alien big cat example were

1098
00:49:25,530 --> 00:49:23,560
you seeing big cats and in built-up

1099
00:49:27,810 --> 00:49:25,540
areas or places where they shouldn't be

1100
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:27,820
another one is in New Zealand we have

1101
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,490
moose apparently down in the South

1102
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:32,880
Island which has been one of our

1103
00:49:36,690 --> 00:49:34,930
cryptozoology creatures there's no way

1104
00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:36,700
there's no reason we should have moose

1105
00:49:46,410 --> 00:49:41,910
there but curtailing back to the ghost

1106
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:46,420
situation for you the the best one was

1107
00:49:52,380 --> 00:49:49,210
when I was in Edinburgh now I do the

1108
00:49:54,180 --> 00:49:52,390
Edinburgh Fringe Festival quite a bit

1109
00:49:55,890 --> 00:49:54,190
not so much these days but I'd beckon

1110
00:49:57,900 --> 00:49:55,900
the day out I've done about eight of

1111
00:50:00,089 --> 00:49:57,910
them so that's the big Fringe

1112
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:00,099
Festival the biggest Arts Festival in

1113
00:50:11,339 --> 00:50:03,849
the world so I'm down there about 2003

1114
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:11,349
young guy handsome doing a show in in a

1115
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:14,770
venue now there's over 600 shows for the

1116
00:50:18,270 --> 00:50:16,690
Edinburgh Fringe Festival it's crazy

1117
00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:18,280
it's the whole world sort of comes

1118
00:50:22,740 --> 00:50:20,470
together in the arts and the the

1119
00:50:24,329 --> 00:50:22,750
brochure is you know is is almost as

1120
00:50:26,789 --> 00:50:24,339
thick as a phone book there's a lot to

1121
00:50:29,309 --> 00:50:26,799
see I've squeezed myself in there by the

1122
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:29,319
way as an aside this is where Flight of

1123
00:50:33,870 --> 00:50:31,690
the Conchords and I got together for the

1124
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:33,880
first time and worked together so they

1125
00:50:39,059 --> 00:50:36,130
had a show there I had a show there so

1126
00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:39,069
my show a very small room because no one

1127
00:50:45,779 --> 00:50:40,329
knows who you are you're lucky to get a

1128
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:45,789
room I was in a room called cave 3 now

1129
00:50:49,740 --> 00:50:48,400
there was three caves it sounds weird

1130
00:50:52,170 --> 00:50:49,750
but that's what they called them and

1131
00:50:53,730 --> 00:50:52,180
they're sort of there in a part of

1132
00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:53,740
Edinburgh if you haven't been to

1133
00:50:59,700 --> 00:50:55,630
Edinburgh I highly recommend you go to

1134
00:51:03,480 --> 00:50:59,710
this wonderful Scottish City its nukes

1135
00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:03,490
and crannies cobblestones it looks like

1136
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:05,710
something it's haunted as the day is

1137
00:51:12,809 --> 00:51:06,010
long

1138
00:51:16,170 --> 00:51:12,819
no it's freaky it's gothic there's a

1139
00:51:16,980 --> 00:51:16,180
giant castle there it is just I just

1140
00:51:18,510 --> 00:51:16,990
love it

1141
00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:18,520
it's my favorite city and I lived there

1142
00:51:21,180 --> 00:51:19,599
for a couple of years because of that I

1143
00:51:25,380 --> 00:51:21,190
once I did a show I just didn't leave

1144
00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:25,390
but going back to the cave so that I'm

1145
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:27,940
in this venue which they opened up down

1146
00:51:33,210 --> 00:51:30,970
in a place called Khao Gate and these

1147
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:33,220
rooms that they decided to open up for

1148
00:51:40,260 --> 00:51:36,880
more venues used to be the places that

1149
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:40,270
they threw all the dead bodies and all

1150
00:51:44,190 --> 00:51:41,650
the people that were just about dead

1151
00:51:46,049 --> 00:51:44,200
from the plague hundreds of years ago

1152
00:51:48,029 --> 00:51:46,059
okay and they've been and they sort of

1153
00:51:49,470 --> 00:51:48,039
and then they cleaned it all out and got

1154
00:51:51,299 --> 00:51:49,480
rid of them or got rid of what was there

1155
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:51,309
but of course you never gonna really get

1156
00:51:56,370 --> 00:51:53,770
rid of what's there no and so I'm on

1157
00:51:59,579 --> 00:51:56,380
stage a tiny little stage my audience

1158
00:52:04,349 --> 00:51:59,589
size 12 doing really well and so there I

1159
00:52:07,710 --> 00:52:04,359
am and look you can might hear that in

1160
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:07,720
the background that's my security okay

1161
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:09,610
I've checked about Jimmy Jimmy check

1162
00:52:13,860 --> 00:52:11,680
[Laughter]

1163
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:13,870
he's legit yeah he's got a sunshine okay

1164
00:52:20,730 --> 00:52:16,410
all right we're good

1165
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:20,740
now I'm performing 2003 in front of 12

1166
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:22,450
people I'm doing the jokes you know I'm

1167
00:52:26,460 --> 00:52:24,490
having a having a bit of a laugh and a

1168
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:26,470
few impressions I used to do dinosaur

1169
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:29,410
impressions and and and all that you

1170
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:32,410
know my humour is is quite childlike

1171
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:36,400
with an element of adult humor and you

1172
00:52:42,170 --> 00:52:38,730
know I do sound effects I do

1173
00:52:44,370 --> 00:52:42,180
characterizations it's hard to sort of

1174
00:52:46,770 --> 00:52:44,380
yeah it's hard to visualize what I do

1175
00:52:49,110 --> 00:52:46,780
unless you actually visualize it but

1176
00:52:50,670 --> 00:52:49,120
anyway there I am and suddenly halfway

1177
00:52:53,730 --> 00:52:50,680
through the show this is lying you've

1178
00:52:57,210 --> 00:52:53,740
got an hour slot halfway through I get

1179
00:53:01,290 --> 00:52:57,220
this weird coldness go right up the the

1180
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:01,300
my back spine it goes from the the base

1181
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:04,450
my bum right all the way up and gives me

1182
00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:07,330
this really weird cold feeling and my

1183
00:53:13,170 --> 00:53:10,510
body and then darts from my head this

1184
00:53:16,650 --> 00:53:13,180
light darts jewel from my head right

1185
00:53:18,450 --> 00:53:16,660
across in front of me about six meters

1186
00:53:20,430 --> 00:53:18,460
off to the right and goes straight to a

1187
00:53:23,130 --> 00:53:20,440
light one of the lights that's lighting

1188
00:53:25,350 --> 00:53:23,140
me up and I just went I just froze

1189
00:53:26,820 --> 00:53:25,360
because I had this weird feeling that

1190
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:26,830
there's some weird energy had just

1191
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:28,930
passed through me and I physically saw

1192
00:53:34,590 --> 00:53:30,730
it shoot off to the light and I said to

1193
00:53:36,210 --> 00:53:34,600
the audience did you guys see that now

1194
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:36,220
the weird thing is they didn't see it

1195
00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:38,170
they didn't see this thing that I saw

1196
00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:41,470
over so master it is but you know what I

1197
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:43,750
was so shocked that I I couldn't go on

1198
00:53:49,020 --> 00:53:46,570
Jimmy I had to at that point I just sort

1199
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:49,030
of I've just there he is on the back of

1200
00:53:53,310 --> 00:53:50,800
my knee and in the standing up now

1201
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:53,320
thinking about it I was like what is

1202
00:53:58,590 --> 00:53:55,450
what I just experienced because it felt

1203
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:58,600
it felt like an evil thing had come

1204
00:54:03,210 --> 00:53:59,920
through me it was it was hard to

1205
00:54:05,490 --> 00:54:03,220
describe I said to the audience I gonna

1206
00:54:07,340 --> 00:54:05,500
have to call it there I can't start I

1207
00:54:10,350 --> 00:54:07,350
can't I couldn't be funny again and

1208
00:54:12,090 --> 00:54:10,360
people that people had to leave and then

1209
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:12,100
they so they walked out and I had I went

1210
00:54:15,090 --> 00:54:13,690
straight outside as well and to the into

1211
00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:15,100
the alleyway there nice cobblestone

1212
00:54:18,750 --> 00:54:16,990
alleyway where all the people have

1213
00:54:20,180 --> 00:54:18,760
mingling and there's a couple of people

1214
00:54:24,510 --> 00:54:20,190
widowed I just ran out of material

1215
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:27,420
I did it I was just absolutely freaked I

1216
00:54:32,910 --> 00:54:29,650
couldn't I couldn't go on and then the

1217
00:54:34,770 --> 00:54:32,920
next day I got a priest to come in and

1218
00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:34,780
he did he blessed the place with holy

1219
00:54:40,940 --> 00:54:38,470
water and it was the weirdest things I

1220
00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:40,950
had to go with him and so he did they

1221
00:54:45,870 --> 00:54:43,720
you know did the cross and and and then

1222
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:45,880
reflect all this water around my venue

1223
00:54:49,890 --> 00:54:47,770
and did endure the little prayer and

1224
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:49,900
stuff and then I ended up going back on

1225
00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:51,910
stage like I took a day off and then

1226
00:54:55,530 --> 00:54:53,830
went back on and and this also been to

1227
00:55:00,330 --> 00:54:55,540
the local news and there was one other

1228
00:55:02,790 --> 00:55:00,340
act that had a similar experience and

1229
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:02,800
shut their down for the rest of the run

1230
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:05,650
right they though they went home so I'm

1231
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:08,110
so with you on that look you're right

1232
00:55:15,170 --> 00:55:11,680
necie it's physical right Bigfoot it's

1233
00:55:19,410 --> 00:55:15,180
physical UFO it's physical I can deal

1234
00:55:22,050 --> 00:55:19,420
chupacabra bring it on right a ghost is

1235
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:22,060
something that is not physical and it

1236
00:55:26,070 --> 00:55:23,710
scares the crap out of me and you know

1237
00:55:28,140 --> 00:55:26,080
people are gonna know if people hey man

1238
00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:28,150
you want a ghost hunt your house man

1239
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:29,950
let's go through meaning you know no I

1240
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:34,930
don't we watch those the exorcism you

1241
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:38,710
watch those movies that we're by yeah we

1242
00:55:43,980 --> 00:55:40,450
don't have control over something that's

1243
00:55:45,330 --> 00:55:43,990
the supernatural that that could you

1244
00:55:46,860 --> 00:55:45,340
know we've heard about the poltergeist

1245
00:55:49,890 --> 00:55:46,870
thing I mean it's just it's a little

1246
00:55:52,980 --> 00:55:51,420
yeah the other day I got to take a break

1247
00:55:56,130 --> 00:55:52,990
here but I'm gonna tell you a 15-second

1248
00:55:59,960 --> 00:55:56,140
story I'm over at our house I'm in the

1249
00:56:05,820 --> 00:55:59,970
kitchen island right I'm at the island

1250
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:05,830
opening up mail to my left about ten

1251
00:56:10,980 --> 00:56:08,230
feet away is the sink in the window you

1252
00:56:14,550 --> 00:56:10,990
know going out to the backyard on the on

1253
00:56:16,740 --> 00:56:14,560
the shelf there above the sink we have a

1254
00:56:21,810 --> 00:56:16,750
row of crystals and stuff on display

1255
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:21,820
right one of the crystals which has got

1256
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:24,010
two crystal balls sitting on top of it

1257
00:56:29,610 --> 00:56:27,130
and I'm standing there alone Rita is in

1258
00:56:33,570 --> 00:56:29,620
another part of the house in the front

1259
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:33,580
room and and I hear it jiggle and I was

1260
00:56:37,220 --> 00:56:35,410
like what is that and I look over and

1261
00:56:42,109 --> 00:56:37,230
this thing in

1262
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:42,119
front of me jiggled by itself and one of

1263
00:56:47,660 --> 00:56:44,640
the green balls jumped off the top of

1264
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:47,670
this crystal and went into a bowl that

1265
00:56:57,620 --> 00:56:50,210
was in the sink

1266
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:57,630
Reece I saw it yeah no no no no no no no

1267
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:01,200
no and so I yelled for Rita I didn't

1268
00:57:05,980 --> 00:57:04,290
move right and I yelled for Rita she

1269
00:57:10,430 --> 00:57:05,990
comes in I said okay I'm standing here

1270
00:57:13,130 --> 00:57:10,440
that thing that half moon rock wiggled

1271
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:13,140
and something jumped off the top of it

1272
00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:15,570
and went into the bowl and she's like

1273
00:57:19,940 --> 00:57:17,190
why and she goes over looks in the bowl

1274
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:19,950
and there it was a green round crystal

1275
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:23,970
and I saw it go airborne it jiggled man

1276
00:57:30,260 --> 00:57:28,290
like like yeah trippy okay I got to take

1277
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:30,270
a break right here we stay right there

1278
00:57:33,859 --> 00:57:32,010
this is fade to black I'm your host

1279
00:57:35,810 --> 00:57:33,869
Jimmy church our guess nothing

1280
00:57:38,060 --> 00:57:35,820
yes yeah you're you're gonna be on hold

1281
00:57:39,370 --> 00:57:38,070
now Reese you got a chill three minute

1282
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:39,380
break

1283
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:42,690
restocking Rhys Darby's our guest show

1284
00:57:46,490 --> 00:57:45,330
number one one one one stay with us

1285
00:57:51,090 --> 00:57:46,500
we'll be right back after this short

1286
00:57:51,100 --> 00:58:41,120
[Music]

1287
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:43,530
welcome back paint the black I am your

1288
00:58:48,540 --> 00:58:45,610
host Jimmy Church follow me on twitter

1289
00:58:51,950 --> 00:58:48,550
@jj radio you can follow our guest

1290
00:58:55,650 --> 00:58:51,960
tonight Rhys Darby and it's you know

1291
00:59:00,000 --> 00:58:55,660
your your Twitter handle it's not Rhys

1292
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:00,010
Darby what is it it's like it was

1293
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:03,040
already taken took that so I had to go

1294
00:59:08,940 --> 00:59:07,210
with racy Dobby received oh yeah ie in

1295
00:59:11,610 --> 00:59:08,950
the middle there yeah but but you got

1296
00:59:13,590 --> 00:59:11,620
that blue verified checkmark so that you

1297
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:13,600
know you got that going for you you know

1298
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:16,240
the other reason imposter

1299
00:59:22,110 --> 00:59:17,890
let me ask you that I want to get back

1300
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:22,120
to all things cryptid and conspiracy but

1301
00:59:28,410 --> 00:59:24,930
I want to ask you this I need a manager

1302
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:28,420
would Murray would would Murray worked

1303
00:59:34,740 --> 00:59:30,730
really hard when he would he'd be a good

1304
00:59:36,780 --> 00:59:34,750
manager for me I think so I think he's

1305
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:36,790
good with schedules

1306
00:59:42,810 --> 00:59:40,480
he's always has an agenda and you know

1307
00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:42,820
in the paranormal world that's great but

1308
00:59:47,820 --> 00:59:45,190
it can it's a it's a it's a weird term

1309
00:59:49,470 --> 00:59:47,830
because there's the alien agenda what is

1310
00:59:52,140 --> 00:59:49,480
the agenda there's the government agenda

1311
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:52,150
and so I think I don't you getting

1312
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:53,890
confused with Murray's agenda his is

1313
00:59:57,500 --> 00:59:54,610
very simple

1314
01:00:00,360 --> 00:59:57,510
it'll just be turn up have a meeting and

1315
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:00,370
discuss what your next plan is and then

1316
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:02,410
he'll try and get that sorted for you

1317
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:05,530
but this it's it's not it's not a

1318
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:07,570
definite that it's going to happen how

1319
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:11,050
much of you how much of you is in Murray

1320
01:00:18,410 --> 01:00:13,930
was it it was it was that something

1321
01:00:21,890 --> 01:00:18,420
where as in all of your characters right

1322
01:00:25,860 --> 01:00:21,900
is it just a piece of Rhys is it

1323
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:25,870
absolutely look in general with with

1324
01:00:31,110 --> 01:00:28,210
character comedy the best characters

1325
01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:31,120
that you've you've seen on TV and

1326
01:00:36,810 --> 01:00:34,390
unfilled there's a heavy piece of that

1327
01:00:39,810 --> 01:00:36,820
person in there because there's a

1328
01:00:45,630 --> 01:00:39,820
character actor myself you know we can

1329
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:45,640
switch up and we have a real large range

1330
01:00:51,090 --> 01:00:48,010
of emotions and where we can go with

1331
01:00:53,940 --> 01:00:51,100
certain things but there has to be a

1332
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:53,950
believability there and so the the

1333
01:01:00,780 --> 01:00:57,520
vulnerability of of marry the optimism

1334
01:01:04,589 --> 01:01:00,790
the naivety bro okay but that but the

1335
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:04,599
healthy you know glass half-full asked

1336
01:01:09,780 --> 01:01:07,210
bit to the character but even though he

1337
01:01:12,420 --> 01:01:09,790
is essentially a loser of sorts as you

1338
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:12,430
can tell hmm life has given him you know

1339
01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:16,450
a pretty average hand but he is happy

1340
01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:18,640
why because he's hanging out with these

1341
01:01:22,980 --> 01:01:21,310
cool guys I mean for him they're cool

1342
01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:22,990
they're not really they're cool they

1343
01:01:26,579 --> 01:01:24,910
look cool they've got the jackets but

1344
01:01:28,109 --> 01:01:26,589
they've got nothing going on and the

1345
01:01:30,810 --> 01:01:28,119
best thing about this show was that it's

1346
01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:30,820
it's the blind leading the blind so if

1347
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:33,369
these guys did have any more you know

1348
01:01:37,530 --> 01:01:34,960
the characters of Jemaine and Bret if

1349
01:01:38,970 --> 01:01:37,540
they really had a little bit more

1350
01:01:43,319 --> 01:01:38,980
intelligence of course they wouldn't

1351
01:01:44,819 --> 01:01:43,329
have Murray as their manager but the one

1352
01:01:47,310 --> 01:01:44,829
over he has on them as he's got their

1353
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:47,320
passports you know so and it's very it's

1354
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:49,570
very Kiwi because weird sort of

1355
01:01:53,250 --> 01:01:51,250
jack-of-all-trades as well in New

1356
01:01:55,410 --> 01:01:53,260
Zealand so we don't have like in the

1357
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:55,420
states where there's you know millions

1358
01:02:00,180 --> 01:01:58,240
and millions of people we only have I

1359
01:02:02,609 --> 01:02:00,190
think it's nearly nearly five but

1360
01:02:05,190 --> 01:02:02,619
differently four million but when I was

1361
01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:05,200
much younger growing up it was it was

1362
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:06,910
three million for a long time that was

1363
01:02:12,930 --> 01:02:11,050
our population and so we had to do do

1364
01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:12,940
more than one thing so we would we would

1365
01:02:18,420 --> 01:02:15,790
be able to like most people in New

1366
01:02:20,220 --> 01:02:18,430
Zealand can can change a tire you know

1367
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:20,230
if their car breaks down that we could

1368
01:02:26,730 --> 01:02:22,690
probably all do that we could milk a cow

1369
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:26,740
if we had to we could certainly fix a

1370
01:02:32,370 --> 01:02:30,400
VCR or paint a fence you know and I find

1371
01:02:36,089 --> 01:02:32,380
that some other places you know those

1372
01:02:37,740 --> 01:02:36,099
sort of jobs are dished out to you know

1373
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:37,750
who we're you know who can do those

1374
01:02:42,839 --> 01:02:39,970
things and so I think I don't know what

1375
01:02:45,359 --> 01:02:42,849
I'm trying to say but this is another

1376
01:02:49,950 --> 01:02:45,369
Murray thing Ram right right right

1377
01:02:53,220 --> 01:02:49,960
not making any sense so so what you're

1378
01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:53,230
saying is essentially that you are able

1379
01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:55,119
to be yourself

1380
01:03:01,260 --> 01:02:57,520
and get paid for it you would be doing

1381
01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:01,270
it anyway right essentially what I'm

1382
01:03:07,860 --> 01:03:05,260
saying is never agreeing never like

1383
01:03:11,330 --> 01:03:07,870
being having sort of authority but not

1384
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:11,340
having an authority manner but not

1385
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:14,110
either knowing what he's talking about

1386
01:03:18,510 --> 01:03:15,970
or really even agreeing with herself

1387
01:03:20,580 --> 01:03:18,520
upon things so you noticed Marie used to

1388
01:03:23,310 --> 01:03:20,590
like say things but with a question mark

1389
01:03:25,860 --> 01:03:23,320
so I think we need to go there don't we

1390
01:03:28,650 --> 01:03:25,870
you're right right for an example and so

1391
01:03:30,330 --> 01:03:28,660
the and the others would go okay good

1392
01:03:32,730 --> 01:03:30,340
right well oh I'll see I'll see you

1393
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:32,740
there and so it's like yeah so there's

1394
01:03:37,470 --> 01:03:34,570
another thing a New Zealand trait is

1395
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:37,480
never to have too much confidence that's

1396
01:03:42,270 --> 01:03:40,240
a thing we we we suffer from and and

1397
01:03:45,810 --> 01:03:42,280
ironically of course I mean I as a

1398
01:03:47,790 --> 01:03:45,820
person do and that's a medal to me to

1399
01:03:51,570 --> 01:03:47,800
sort of get places rarely to have the

1400
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:51,580
sort of the belief that I can make it I

1401
01:03:57,540 --> 01:03:55,330
can I can I can hit the big time baby

1402
01:04:01,200 --> 01:03:57,550
and you know I'm an astute here to the

1403
01:04:05,250 --> 01:04:01,210
states now there is a there's New

1404
01:04:07,350 --> 01:04:05,260
Zealand I know this may come as a

1405
01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:07,360
surprise to you but it's been a subject

1406
01:04:14,730 --> 01:04:11,680
on this show many many times and we just

1407
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:14,740
recently had on Freddy Silva a great

1408
01:04:20,130 --> 01:04:17,170
researcher great author great and just a

1409
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:20,140
great personality and he just got back

1410
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:22,810
from New Zealand his new book is as

1411
01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:25,930
centred on the South Pacific

1412
01:04:29,340 --> 01:04:27,760
you know from Chile all the way to New

1413
01:04:33,540 --> 01:04:29,350
Zealand and all of the islands in

1414
01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:33,550
between and in the mystery behind New

1415
01:04:42,420 --> 01:04:37,600
Zealand and the lost history behind it

1416
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:42,430
our New Zealanders aware of its its

1417
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:45,130
unbelievable history is it something

1418
01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:49,290
that is taught and is talked about

1419
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:52,240
it depends what you're sort of focusing

1420
01:04:58,700 --> 01:04:56,050
on there I mean are you talking pre

1421
01:05:02,940 --> 01:04:58,710
Maori yes pre the indigenous people

1422
01:05:06,930 --> 01:05:02,950
about before mankind got there we see it

1423
01:05:09,630 --> 01:05:06,940
is it is a huge subject and could it

1424
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:09,640
possibly have connections to ancient

1425
01:05:16,170 --> 01:05:10,410
Egypt

1426
01:05:19,110 --> 01:05:16,180
Atlantis Easter Island and and and some

1427
01:05:20,590 --> 01:05:19,120
of the other mysterious aspects of loss

1428
01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:20,600
history

1429
01:05:26,140 --> 01:05:22,880
and the focus over the last couple of

1430
01:05:29,830 --> 01:05:26,150
years in our community has been right

1431
01:05:31,180 --> 01:05:29,840
there at New Zealand really see that's

1432
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:31,190
what that's my point

1433
01:05:35,830 --> 01:05:33,050
well that you know this is interesting I

1434
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:35,840
mean I this is news to me I know that

1435
01:05:39,250 --> 01:05:37,730
Australia is certainly linked to those

1436
01:05:42,130 --> 01:05:39,260
things you're talking of with their

1437
01:05:44,620 --> 01:05:42,140
indigenous people and and there is I've

1438
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:44,630
read of the connections the possible

1439
01:05:49,990 --> 01:05:47,450
connections with ancient Egypt and

1440
01:05:54,070 --> 01:05:50,000
things like that now New Zealand for me

1441
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:54,080
is I mean it's it's a separate continent

1442
01:05:59,160 --> 01:05:56,810
you know the continent of Zealandia

1443
01:06:02,200 --> 01:05:59,170
which came up recently the the mystery

1444
01:06:05,830 --> 01:06:02,210
mysterious 8th continent that that we

1445
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:05,840
sit on which is submerged 85% or or

1446
01:06:10,420 --> 01:06:07,730
something submerged and then at the top

1447
01:06:11,950 --> 01:06:10,430
of it is just our two islands in our

1448
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:11,960
little bit island at the bottom for

1449
01:06:15,610 --> 01:06:13,090
those of you that don't know we've got

1450
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:15,620
north-south and the third one's called

1451
01:06:22,750 --> 01:06:21,170
Stuart it's true okay but then the other

1452
01:06:25,180 --> 01:06:22,760
thing of course is that yeah I mean we

1453
01:06:26,770 --> 01:06:25,190
are the South Pacific where the the

1454
01:06:31,930 --> 01:06:26,780
biggest island nation we're part of

1455
01:06:35,170 --> 01:06:31,940
Polynesia okay so we are in that world

1456
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:35,180
and then yeah next stop is Antarctica so

1457
01:06:41,650 --> 01:06:37,850
for me I've always felt that there's a

1458
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:41,660
massive mystery to our location and to

1459
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:45,110
what our story is and even to the to the

1460
01:06:53,980 --> 01:06:52,450
explored by the Polynesians the greatest

1461
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:53,990
explorers of all time and how they came

1462
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:55,610
down where they came from and how they

1463
01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:57,890
got themselves to all of these places on

1464
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:00,400
these on these walkers or these these

1465
01:07:04,750 --> 01:07:03,170
canoes you know back in the day so

1466
01:07:07,150 --> 01:07:04,760
there's we certainly know about that

1467
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:07,160
kind of thing but to go back even

1468
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:11,810
further before before humans that is not

1469
01:07:17,530 --> 01:07:15,530
something we really look into enough put

1470
01:07:20,140 --> 01:07:17,540
that way and I guess it's because it's

1471
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:20,150
conjecture or you know where it where's

1472
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:22,730
the where's the evidence we don't we

1473
01:07:28,990 --> 01:07:25,930
don't certainly talked enough about

1474
01:07:31,540 --> 01:07:29,000
fossil records and and the earth itself

1475
01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:31,550
and and in geological records of New

1476
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:32,720
Zealand not that I know of

1477
01:07:38,790 --> 01:07:34,370
yeah there is

1478
01:07:41,830 --> 01:07:38,800
some evidence of some really really old

1479
01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:41,840
megalithic structures monuments and

1480
01:07:49,210 --> 01:07:46,880
temples across New Zealand that is just

1481
01:07:52,810 --> 01:07:49,220
now being discovered and explored and

1482
01:07:56,590 --> 01:07:52,820
contemplated that predate the Maui and

1483
01:07:59,050 --> 01:07:56,600
of course New Zealanders the the

1484
01:08:01,900 --> 01:07:59,060
Caucasian side of it that that dates

1485
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:01,910
back thousands of years and it's a

1486
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:04,730
fascinating fascinating subject that I

1487
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:08,240
think is is going to continue to get

1488
01:08:14,260 --> 01:08:11,410
explored how much of New Zealand itself

1489
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:14,270
you know has been discovered right the

1490
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:16,960
population is very very small there huh

1491
01:08:22,570 --> 01:08:19,610
yeah now we've seen all of it we've

1492
01:08:24,210 --> 01:08:22,580
pretty much dipped foot on every bit of

1493
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:24,220
it myself

1494
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:26,930
so this is news to me these ancient

1495
01:08:30,670 --> 01:08:28,610
temples I'd love to see I mean I'm

1496
01:08:33,420 --> 01:08:30,680
assure you if if you've got your facts

1497
01:08:38,820 --> 01:08:33,430
right maybe maybe maybe it's like

1498
01:08:43,210 --> 01:08:38,830
ancient like stone or some some some

1499
01:08:46,990 --> 01:08:43,220
ground that is seemed to be all used to

1500
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:47,000
be something but but yeah that's as far

1501
01:08:52,330 --> 01:08:50,210
as as it would go from my from my hair

1502
01:08:54,010 --> 01:08:52,340
yeah you need to think of and I'm not

1503
01:08:56,380 --> 01:08:54,020
talking about you know giant Greek

1504
01:08:59,850 --> 01:08:56,390
temples but what I am talking about our

1505
01:09:03,130 --> 01:08:59,860
megalithic stones that are positioned in

1506
01:09:06,150 --> 01:09:03,140
a Stonehenge type of situation that

1507
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:06,160
could have been used for our calendars

1508
01:09:14,110 --> 01:09:10,400
or something else but definitely not

1509
01:09:17,050 --> 01:09:14,120
natural and yeah there are sites like

1510
01:09:20,980 --> 01:09:17,060
this all over the planet and yeah I know

1511
01:09:23,110 --> 01:09:20,990
I just know anything from from New

1512
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:23,120
Zealand or a thorough as we as we know

1513
01:09:29,980 --> 01:09:27,170
it is as well our country and yeah going

1514
01:09:31,810 --> 01:09:29,990
predating the Maori civilization when

1515
01:09:34,180 --> 01:09:31,820
they first got there I mean that's

1516
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:34,190
that's extraordinary so I would love to

1517
01:09:38,710 --> 01:09:36,170
look into this yeah and the Maori are

1518
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:38,720
you know this is recent history to you

1519
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:41,440
know afford to believe the textbooks

1520
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:45,650
it's not like this is you know BC and

1521
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:47,690
you know five thousand years ago this is

1522
01:09:54,010 --> 01:09:50,810
recent history yeah absolutely

1523
01:09:57,250 --> 01:09:54,020
it is yeah now what about when when we

1524
01:10:01,150 --> 01:09:57,260
start to look at things like ancient

1525
01:10:03,189 --> 01:10:01,160
Egypt and its influence into the South

1526
01:10:05,890 --> 01:10:03,199
Pacific in Australia in New Zealand and

1527
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:05,900
the possibilities of this and certainly

1528
01:10:10,270 --> 01:10:07,760
Easter Island comes into play

1529
01:10:11,620 --> 01:10:10,280
Easter Island has to come into play even

1530
01:10:15,459 --> 01:10:11,630
though it's halfway between New Zealand

1531
01:10:18,700 --> 01:10:15,469
and Chile it's the only thing that is

1532
01:10:22,930 --> 01:10:18,710
there in between you and and South

1533
01:10:25,540 --> 01:10:22,940
America what do you make of that do you

1534
01:10:26,110 --> 01:10:25,550
think that Egypt could have been a

1535
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:26,120
trance

1536
01:10:32,020 --> 01:10:28,730
oceanic culture that could have had

1537
01:10:35,860 --> 01:10:32,030
influences all the way around whether

1538
01:10:38,970 --> 01:10:35,870
they went from you know to the east from

1539
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:38,980
Africa over into Australia or came

1540
01:10:48,209 --> 01:10:43,280
around from the other direction but what

1541
01:10:51,340 --> 01:10:48,219
do you make of that look I I sort of I'm

1542
01:10:54,610 --> 01:10:51,350
into the ancient astronaut theory myself

1543
01:10:57,220 --> 01:10:54,620
and so if we're gonna discuss this my my

1544
01:11:01,740 --> 01:10:57,230
only take on this would be that it was

1545
01:11:04,959 --> 01:11:01,750
extraterrestrial situation so I believe

1546
01:11:06,459 --> 01:11:04,969
and it's because as we as you mention it

1547
01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:06,469
now and we're talking about seafaring

1548
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:07,280
and stuff like that

1549
01:11:10,689 --> 01:11:08,570
I just don't know we're going back so

1550
01:11:13,470 --> 01:11:10,699
far that I just don't think that as a

1551
01:11:17,890 --> 01:11:13,480
possibility not not over the the great

1552
01:11:18,970 --> 01:11:17,900
seas of this planet on rudimentary craft

1553
01:11:21,570 --> 01:11:18,980
that they would have put together so I

1554
01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:21,580
believe if there was an extraterrestrial

1555
01:11:28,890 --> 01:11:25,760
alien presence that basically

1556
01:11:32,590 --> 01:11:28,900
constructed or helped construct

1557
01:11:35,620 --> 01:11:32,600
monuments and languages and and things

1558
01:11:37,689 --> 01:11:35,630
in ancient Egypt they would have done

1559
01:11:39,910 --> 01:11:37,699
the same thing in other parts of the

1560
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:39,920
world and that's why these temples these

1561
01:11:45,070 --> 01:11:42,080
pyramids and things match up that that

1562
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:45,080
that makes total sense to me what

1563
01:11:51,010 --> 01:11:48,890
doesn't make sense is you know is where

1564
01:11:53,140 --> 01:11:51,020
the amnesia comes from where we forgot

1565
01:11:55,689 --> 01:11:53,150
about it or where they've told us to

1566
01:11:58,570 --> 01:11:55,699
shush it up or whether there's been a

1567
01:12:00,580 --> 01:11:58,580
cataclysm and we and all the history has

1568
01:12:03,370 --> 01:12:00,590
been wiped out apart from those

1569
01:12:06,189 --> 01:12:03,380
those few monuments that we still tell

1570
01:12:09,129 --> 01:12:06,199
pieces of the story that the sky gods

1571
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:09,139
did come down create us or turn us into

1572
01:12:14,589 --> 01:12:12,050
the slaves that they wanted and then for

1573
01:12:17,109 --> 01:12:14,599
one of a better word buggered off and

1574
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:17,119
then we're left with what we have you

1575
01:12:22,359 --> 01:12:20,090
know it makes more sense and I've been

1576
01:12:25,300 --> 01:12:22,369
you know reading about obviously the

1577
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:25,310
great pyramids and the Sphinx which is

1578
01:12:28,030 --> 01:12:26,000
so old

1579
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:28,040
even before the pyramids and why is it

1580
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:30,290
there and it's just that kind of stuff

1581
01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:32,210
obviously blows my mind it's all part of

1582
01:12:39,399 --> 01:12:34,880
the subject matter but then and I

1583
01:12:42,729 --> 01:12:39,409
recently was in Cancun and and saw

1584
01:12:44,979 --> 01:12:42,739
Chichen Itza the Mayan temple the Great

1585
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:44,989
Pyramid and that kind of stuff and so

1586
01:12:49,899 --> 01:12:46,880
which is you know just on my list of all

1587
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:49,909
the things I want to see in this

1588
01:12:54,189 --> 01:12:52,489
lifetime and it really starts to connect

1589
01:12:55,570 --> 01:12:54,199
and you think how are these

1590
01:12:58,810 --> 01:12:55,580
civilizations on all these different

1591
01:13:04,390 --> 01:12:58,820
parts of the world have a linking kind

1592
01:13:08,500 --> 01:13:04,400
of embodiment of what they believe is is

1593
01:13:12,580 --> 01:13:08,510
there is there sky gods and their

1594
01:13:15,339 --> 01:13:12,590
astrological obsession all of it all the

1595
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:15,349
ancient history all those civilizations

1596
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:17,690
from thousands and thousands of years

1597
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:21,170
ago all point to the stars all point to

1598
01:13:29,580 --> 01:13:24,050
the sky and create these calendars and

1599
01:13:33,370 --> 01:13:29,590
create these textures that texts and and

1600
01:13:36,910 --> 01:13:33,380
dialogues that are all about not only

1601
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:36,920
just not only the happenings in space

1602
01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:41,449
but but battles in our own atmosphere in

1603
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:47,840
the sky that I think is the key to where

1604
01:13:51,300 --> 01:13:49,250
we all came from yeah it's not

1605
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:51,310
imagination it's not science fiction

1606
01:13:57,459 --> 01:13:55,010
storytelling it's just it's not humans

1607
01:13:59,649 --> 01:13:57,469
it's not humans seafaring it's a they

1608
01:14:02,680 --> 01:13:59,659
have to have this knowledge from a

1609
01:14:06,189 --> 01:14:02,690
higher source which I believe has given

1610
01:14:08,669 --> 01:14:06,199
them the knowledge as part of as part of

1611
01:14:11,709 --> 01:14:08,679
this seeding as part of their you know

1612
01:14:13,629 --> 01:14:11,719
growth and to doing what they want to

1613
01:14:14,290 --> 01:14:13,639
get out of us and then I've done that

1614
01:14:16,450 --> 01:14:14,300
and the very

1615
01:14:17,650 --> 01:14:16,460
parts of the planet and that's that's

1616
01:14:20,050 --> 01:14:17,660
where the linkages

1617
01:14:23,020 --> 01:14:20,060
it's from then it's from their ships

1618
01:14:25,270 --> 01:14:23,030
it's got to be yes my take on it no and

1619
01:14:26,830 --> 01:14:25,280
you're right you're right and it well

1620
01:14:30,370 --> 01:14:26,840
it's not paranormal I think it's

1621
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:30,380
accurate and one of the things that for

1622
01:14:35,730 --> 01:14:33,770
people that have lived their life in the

1623
01:14:41,500 --> 01:14:35,740
Midwest and have not had an opportunity

1624
01:14:43,870 --> 01:14:41,510
to go to ashore and look at the Atlantic

1625
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:43,880
Ocean or come out here to the west coast

1626
01:14:51,190 --> 01:14:46,850
and look at the Pacific Ocean and the

1627
01:14:55,630 --> 01:14:51,200
ginormous of it the power of it it is it

1628
01:14:58,990 --> 01:14:55,640
is majestically huge and to suggest that

1629
01:15:02,740 --> 01:14:59,000
canoes were going across that for

1630
01:15:07,090 --> 01:15:02,750
thousands of miles is that's where I

1631
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:07,100
have to just stop and call BS it just

1632
01:15:12,460 --> 01:15:09,050
doesn't make any sense

1633
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:12,470
canoes are right out it's just out it's

1634
01:15:18,670 --> 01:15:15,730
just out it's it's not part of the the

1635
01:15:21,390 --> 01:15:18,680
conversation it has to be something much

1636
01:15:24,670 --> 01:15:21,400
simpler than that

1637
01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:24,680
absolutely especially we're talking

1638
01:15:27,070 --> 01:15:26,510
thousands of years ago you know ancient

1639
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:27,080
Egypt

1640
01:15:33,070 --> 01:15:31,010
beyond the Mayans you know ya know

1641
01:15:39,370 --> 01:15:33,080
there's I I don't think that the canoe

1642
01:15:41,290 --> 01:15:39,380
action with had to be minimal now I want

1643
01:15:42,490 --> 01:15:41,300
to say on the ancient astronaut a part

1644
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:42,500
of this not specifically ancient

1645
01:15:49,330 --> 01:15:45,050
astronauts but you bring up a really

1646
01:15:51,820 --> 01:15:49,340
really good point that no matter what

1647
01:15:53,890 --> 01:15:51,830
the culture is reefs no matter what the

1648
01:15:57,730 --> 01:15:53,900
culture their reference to their

1649
01:16:01,360 --> 01:15:57,740
knowledge came from up there right it

1650
01:16:04,270 --> 01:16:01,370
came from up there that is not

1651
01:16:07,450 --> 01:16:04,280
imagination and the other part of this

1652
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:07,460
is for me is that these cultures

1653
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:11,120
suddenly appeared up right right they

1654
01:16:18,130 --> 01:16:13,570
had they had geometry mathematics

1655
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:18,140
astronomy governments region streets

1656
01:16:25,780 --> 01:16:21,440
roads music books right they had

1657
01:16:28,090 --> 01:16:25,790
everything suddenly right yeah it wasn't

1658
01:16:31,390 --> 01:16:28,100
an evolutionary step

1659
01:16:33,670 --> 01:16:31,400
was a dramatic up right functioning

1660
01:16:38,020 --> 01:16:33,680
civilization and it happened all around

1661
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:38,030
the planet how do we explain that well

1662
01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:40,370
that's exactly well you know and some

1663
01:16:44,350 --> 01:16:42,320
will say well an easy cop-out to explain

1664
01:16:48,250 --> 01:16:44,360
it is to go I was the extraterrestrials

1665
01:16:50,890 --> 01:16:48,260
and another the other other way is to go

1666
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:50,900
oh suddenly it just we just clicked you

1667
01:16:55,930 --> 01:16:53,810
know we've done the farming thing once

1668
01:16:58,900 --> 01:16:55,940
we sorted that out we started to have

1669
01:17:00,430 --> 01:16:58,910
time to actually think and there is

1670
01:17:02,410 --> 01:17:00,440
something in that and in terms of the

1671
01:17:05,860 --> 01:17:02,420
fact that if you go down the the

1672
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:05,870
relative of just evolution you know

1673
01:17:12,340 --> 01:17:09,530
hunter and gatherer finally we've we

1674
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:12,350
then get into agriculture farming we

1675
01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:16,010
aren't spending all of our time you know

1676
01:17:20,260 --> 01:17:18,110
tracking down animals and and and

1677
01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:20,270
killing them and then bringing them back

1678
01:17:28,530 --> 01:17:24,800
we are now cultivating land you know

1679
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:28,540
we've got plants we've got food

1680
01:17:32,350 --> 01:17:29,690
vegetables

1681
01:17:35,170 --> 01:17:32,360
we've got farm animals so now we've got

1682
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:35,180
more time to think and maybe at that

1683
01:17:41,770 --> 01:17:39,290
point this is where we start having fun

1684
01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:41,780
we go the first time and humanity maybe

1685
01:17:50,110 --> 01:17:47,450
they were having enough to having a bit

1686
01:17:52,420 --> 01:17:50,120
of a laugh and having having a drink

1687
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:52,430
alcohol was then a thing and all of

1688
01:17:55,450 --> 01:17:54,110
course you know then your mind starts to

1689
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:55,460
open up let me have a thought we have

1690
01:18:01,630 --> 01:17:58,130
dialogue we dance and all of a sudden

1691
01:18:03,730 --> 01:18:01,640
we're I'm creating entertainment and the

1692
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:03,740
only guess you know you can see how how

1693
01:18:10,990 --> 01:18:06,410
things have evolved that way that's the

1694
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:11,000
other argument is that it happened once

1695
01:18:18,430 --> 01:18:16,010
we evolved enough in our own skills as

1696
01:18:20,530 --> 01:18:18,440
humans to be able to give ourselves time

1697
01:18:25,060 --> 01:18:20,540
off and there's that massive part of the

1698
01:18:27,970 --> 01:18:25,070
brain that we still haven't used tap

1699
01:18:29,980 --> 01:18:27,980
into and of course you can tap into

1700
01:18:31,150 --> 01:18:29,990
things through natural drug to self as

1701
01:18:35,260 --> 01:18:31,160
well so maybe there was a bit of that

1702
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:35,270
going on but mmm-hmm you bring up a

1703
01:18:39,790 --> 01:18:37,610
really it helped but it's still yeah you

1704
01:18:41,870 --> 01:18:39,800
go yeah you brought up a really good

1705
01:18:45,950 --> 01:18:41,880
point I I don't want to dance

1706
01:18:49,340 --> 01:18:45,960
this which i Zahi Hawass whatever your

1707
01:18:53,090 --> 01:18:49,350
opinion is that's not the point but I

1708
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:53,100
was watching him in a documentary and he

1709
01:19:00,919 --> 01:18:56,850
actually said these words and if we go

1710
01:19:04,939 --> 01:19:00,929
back to 3000 BC in in Egypt now we are

1711
01:19:07,300 --> 01:19:04,949
at the edge of Stone Age man okay that's

1712
01:19:11,689 --> 01:19:07,310
that's it that's 3000 BC the Bronze Age

1713
01:19:13,610 --> 01:19:11,699
hasn't even happened yet 3000 BC and he

1714
01:19:15,110 --> 01:19:13,620
goes well and you know if you look at

1715
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:15,120
these hieroglyphics here and you look at

1716
01:19:21,950 --> 01:19:19,440
the house here they are making beer now

1717
01:19:26,379 --> 01:19:21,960
yeah now wait a minute wait a minute how

1718
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:26,389
do you go from a Stone Age man to

1719
01:19:33,140 --> 01:19:31,170
fermenting beer and making alcohol we're

1720
01:19:35,870 --> 01:19:33,150
talking about chemistry here this isn't

1721
01:19:38,959 --> 01:19:35,880
an accident you don't bump your way into

1722
01:19:42,260 --> 01:19:38,969
beer you know and and hops and barley

1723
01:19:45,740 --> 01:19:42,270
and and and knowing and wheat and how

1724
01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:45,750
you're going to combine this and and and

1725
01:19:51,979 --> 01:19:49,920
sugar and you know what I mean and he

1726
01:19:52,490 --> 01:19:51,989
just dances past it like it's no big

1727
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:52,500
deal

1728
01:19:59,360 --> 01:19:56,130
now I had to ask myself how does that

1729
01:20:02,030 --> 01:19:59,370
chemistry come into play where one

1730
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:02,040
minute you're Stone Age man forging for

1731
01:20:08,570 --> 01:20:04,770
seeds in the desert right wearing a

1732
01:20:10,750 --> 01:20:08,580
loincloth and carrying a club I think to

1733
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:10,760
survive fighting to survive top is

1734
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:13,170
there's no time for joy you know there's

1735
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:15,449
there's the environment and it's and

1736
01:20:19,070 --> 01:20:17,730
it's and it's full-on which is a term we

1737
01:20:19,970 --> 01:20:19,080
use in New Zealand meaning it's you know

1738
01:20:23,689 --> 01:20:19,980
there's a lot there's a lot happening

1739
01:20:25,939 --> 01:20:23,699
and it's tickle I mean it turned out

1740
01:20:28,459 --> 01:20:25,949
tonight for the listeners yes

1741
01:20:31,700 --> 01:20:28,469
but yeah there's one of two options one

1742
01:20:34,540 --> 01:20:31,710
is that as as humans and we know this

1743
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:34,550
does happen that geniuses are created

1744
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:37,770
some humans are born that have a spark

1745
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:39,449
of something inside their brain that is

1746
01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:42,570
unusual you know and and I'm not just

1747
01:20:45,830 --> 01:20:44,159
talking Einstein but I'm talking like

1748
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:45,840
the likes of Tesla that kind of thing

1749
01:20:50,270 --> 01:20:48,690
where they sing Lea from the future

1750
01:20:52,490 --> 01:20:50,280
where where they have some sort of

1751
01:20:54,050 --> 01:20:52,500
thought pattern that is beyond a normal

1752
01:20:55,009 --> 01:20:54,060
human who's to say that this didn't

1753
01:20:57,109 --> 01:20:55,019
happen back in the

1754
01:20:58,640 --> 01:20:57,119
oops when someone went you know what I'm

1755
01:21:00,739 --> 01:20:58,650
not gonna go and chase the boar and

1756
01:21:04,189 --> 01:21:00,749
bring it back tonight I'm I'm actually

1757
01:21:06,500 --> 01:21:04,199
going to have a look at these thing kiya

1758
01:21:08,270 --> 01:21:06,510
and and and see if I put those together

1759
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:08,280
what's going to happen with that and

1760
01:21:12,379 --> 01:21:10,320
they like oh yeah ugh stop doing that

1761
01:21:15,049 --> 01:21:12,389
it's going at the ball no no you do it

1762
01:21:16,669 --> 01:21:15,059
I'm gonna stay in the cave and just go

1763
01:21:19,879 --> 01:21:16,679
out some pee that's a bit different

1764
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:19,889
oh you're weird look this weirdness came

1765
01:21:24,259 --> 01:21:22,530
from from those early thinkers I often

1766
01:21:26,959 --> 01:21:24,269
think about the cave paintings and I

1767
01:21:29,810 --> 01:21:26,969
think you know back in those times there

1768
01:21:32,810 --> 01:21:29,820
was everyone was out or particularly the

1769
01:21:35,689 --> 01:21:32,820
men I imagine who were out there you

1770
01:21:40,250 --> 01:21:35,699
know hunting and bringing the stuff back

1771
01:21:42,919 --> 01:21:40,260
to their families every day every day

1772
01:21:46,189 --> 01:21:42,929
every day but there's got to be some

1773
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:46,199
that were in the cave going no I'm gonna

1774
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:48,480
stay I'm gonna stay here Brian I'm gonna

1775
01:21:52,669 --> 01:21:51,090
do a painting what I'm gonna do a little

1776
01:21:54,580 --> 01:21:52,679
painting are you guys out there doing

1777
01:22:00,049 --> 01:21:54,590
your thing

1778
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:00,059
Brian you know so there's that element

1779
01:22:04,339 --> 01:22:02,489
to it for sure but the other side of it

1780
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:04,349
is and this is the argument we're going

1781
01:22:12,939 --> 01:22:07,199
to have until you know the cows hover up

1782
01:22:16,100 --> 01:22:12,949
and there is did they receive help and

1783
01:22:20,750 --> 01:22:16,110
this is the argument and and I think is

1784
01:22:22,790 --> 01:22:20,760
it clear there's a clear point to the to

1785
01:22:26,180 --> 01:22:22,800
the fact that that's certainly a

1786
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:26,190
possibility because we know now as a

1787
01:22:34,669 --> 01:22:31,440
fact that UFOs are real so what are they

1788
01:22:36,979 --> 01:22:34,679
rhodamine right right right right we're

1789
01:22:40,250 --> 01:22:36,989
good we didn't know that like ten years

1790
01:22:41,989 --> 01:22:40,260
ago five years ago but now the print

1791
01:22:43,069 --> 01:22:41,999
media you know going into this kind of

1792
01:22:47,450 --> 01:22:43,079
thing you know with the New York Times

1793
01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:47,460
all ooh you know it's it's it's real so

1794
01:22:53,140 --> 01:22:49,920
then what are they are they just like

1795
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:53,150
they try to recharacterize them

1796
01:22:58,989 --> 01:22:56,880
unidentified aerial phenomena no let's

1797
01:23:02,299 --> 01:22:58,999
get the word object out of there let's

1798
01:23:03,919 --> 01:23:02,309
try metallic object it's a it's a it's a

1799
01:23:06,290 --> 01:23:03,929
phenomena it's like a it's like a wither

1800
01:23:08,599 --> 01:23:06,300
thing it's a it's a light it's a it's a

1801
01:23:12,169 --> 01:23:08,609
we it's a natural weird thing guys

1802
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:12,179
calm down whatever we know these things

1803
01:23:19,549 --> 01:23:17,489
are physical they go at amazing speeds

1804
01:23:22,099 --> 01:23:19,559
do things that you know we can't beyond

1805
01:23:24,319 --> 01:23:22,109
our physics and so they come from other

1806
01:23:27,349 --> 01:23:24,329
dimensions they certainly can just

1807
01:23:29,329 --> 01:23:27,359
appear and and then you know the same

1808
01:23:30,679 --> 01:23:29,339
can be said for cryptozoology for

1809
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:30,689
there's any fans of cryptids out there

1810
01:23:36,049 --> 01:23:33,570
you know there's one of the arguments is

1811
01:23:38,839 --> 01:23:36,059
that they come from realm as well they

1812
01:23:41,119 --> 01:23:38,849
they can appear and disappear and and

1813
01:23:43,549 --> 01:23:41,129
then of course you can link the two but

1814
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:43,559
I'm rambling now into another part but

1815
01:23:50,419 --> 01:23:48,449
say is let's actually I gotta jump I

1816
01:23:53,209 --> 01:23:50,429
gotta jump to a network break so let's

1817
01:23:54,379 --> 01:23:53,219
get that in this is fade to black I am

1818
01:23:56,929 --> 01:23:54,389
your host Jimmy Church I guess tonight

1819
01:23:58,790 --> 01:23:56,939
Rhys Darby or you don't worry everybody

1820
01:24:01,219 --> 01:23:58,800
we're gonna continue where we're leaving

1821
01:24:03,169 --> 01:24:01,229
off right now this is fade to black I'm

1822
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:03,179
yours Jimmy Church stay with us we'll be

1823
01:24:07,330 --> 01:24:16,410
[Music]

1824
01:24:21,300 --> 01:24:18,550
welcome back pay the block I'm your host

1825
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:21,310
Jimmy Church show number one one one one

1826
01:24:26,950 --> 01:24:25,010
took us seven years to get here very

1827
01:24:30,220 --> 01:24:26,960
special show the very special guest

1828
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:30,230
recent Darby is with us he's got his

1829
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:31,850
podcast it's called the Krypton factor

1830
01:24:39,010 --> 01:24:34,370
and I want to switch to cryptid right

1831
01:24:43,570 --> 01:24:39,020
now Rhys I am I'm on the fence about

1832
01:24:46,900 --> 01:24:43,580
Bigfoot okay yeah now I've been leaning

1833
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:46,910
I saw my first big footprint last year

1834
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:48,850
saw four of them made a plaster cast

1835
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:51,410
pretty extraordinary I don't know how to

1836
01:24:57,550 --> 01:24:53,330
explain the feeling that I had after

1837
01:25:03,010 --> 01:24:57,560
that Wow pretty trippy but still not a

1838
01:25:05,950 --> 01:25:03,020
hundred percent convinced but when it

1839
01:25:09,220 --> 01:25:05,960
comes to Bigfoot and the Bigfoot shows

1840
01:25:12,460 --> 01:25:09,230
out there I seem to know how each

1841
01:25:15,130 --> 01:25:12,470
episode is going to end alright and

1842
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:15,140
that's kind of where I miss appointing

1843
01:25:20,050 --> 01:25:18,080
Lee right well and but yet I've seen it

1844
01:25:23,740 --> 01:25:20,060
I've seen the footprints alright I can't

1845
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:23,750
explain that yeah it's for me it's yeah

1846
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:25,520
it's pushing me in the right direction

1847
01:25:31,330 --> 01:25:29,810
I'm not quite there for you you know

1848
01:25:34,150 --> 01:25:31,340
what is your stance and if you were

1849
01:25:36,340 --> 01:25:34,160
going to you know throw evidence out

1850
01:25:41,140 --> 01:25:36,350
there to somebody like me what would you

1851
01:25:43,330 --> 01:25:41,150
do well that's a good one I I support it

1852
01:25:46,420 --> 01:25:43,340
I'm into it because I'm into

1853
01:25:49,330 --> 01:25:46,430
cryptozoology and I want to believe and

1854
01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:49,340
that's an old adage but there has been

1855
01:25:55,090 --> 01:25:51,920
so many eyewitnesses I mean they made

1856
01:25:57,940 --> 01:25:55,100
that show Finding Bigfoot

1857
01:26:02,400 --> 01:25:57,950
ironically and you know they never found

1858
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:02,410
him but and by the way you know

1859
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:05,090
statistically there's hundreds if not

1860
01:26:10,660 --> 01:26:07,010
this thousands of them for them to

1861
01:26:14,580 --> 01:26:10,670
survive so it just leads to so much

1862
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:14,590
suspicion but also so much wonder and

1863
01:26:21,550 --> 01:26:19,010
who's gonna say no to eyewitnesses to

1864
01:26:23,470 --> 01:26:21,560
the many that we've seen on television

1865
01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:23,480
and you know in every other source on

1866
01:26:29,110 --> 01:26:26,960
the internet there I witness accounts

1867
01:26:33,550 --> 01:26:29,120
and I've certainly

1868
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:33,560
listened to a few from my show and these

1869
01:26:40,540 --> 01:26:37,130
people are real and speaking the truth

1870
01:26:43,930 --> 01:26:40,550
and they have seen something and so that

1871
01:26:46,750 --> 01:26:43,940
is basically all we have and then I just

1872
01:26:48,930 --> 01:26:46,760
get angry because I'm like when are we

1873
01:26:51,460 --> 01:26:48,940
gonna find them they need to be

1874
01:26:53,710 --> 01:26:51,470
protected and in some places they are

1875
01:26:58,090 --> 01:26:53,720
protected in case there is a hunter or

1876
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:58,100
to stop anyone you know that may take

1877
01:27:02,350 --> 01:27:00,320
one down and then there's the argument

1878
01:27:04,420 --> 01:27:02,360
about let's take them down so we can

1879
01:27:08,710 --> 01:27:04,430
prove that there's a physical thing

1880
01:27:13,090 --> 01:27:08,720
there and this has just gone on and on

1881
01:27:17,350 --> 01:27:13,100
for decades and in my mind the only way

1882
01:27:21,700 --> 01:27:17,360
for us now to really solve this is to

1883
01:27:25,330 --> 01:27:21,710
really get strategic to use the best of

1884
01:27:30,730 --> 01:27:25,340
our human skills and I'm talking special

1885
01:27:33,190 --> 01:27:30,740
forces good I'm talking you know sending

1886
01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:33,200
one or two or a very small group of

1887
01:27:40,180 --> 01:27:35,510
people in there that have the skills to

1888
01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:40,190
not be seen to not be smelt and look I'm

1889
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:42,800
ex-military as you know you may know I

1890
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:44,090
think I think I did tell you this your

1891
01:27:50,260 --> 01:27:46,250
record so I'm yeah yeah yeah which is

1892
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:50,270
another story again but to go into these

1893
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:53,930
forests and to to have the complete

1894
01:28:00,280 --> 01:27:58,090
advantage to not be smelt from you know

1895
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:00,290
miles and miles because these creatures

1896
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:03,440
can smell they have amazing senses if

1897
01:28:09,670 --> 01:28:05,770
they are what we think they are

1898
01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:09,680
Gigantopithecus some sort of primate

1899
01:28:15,610 --> 01:28:12,800
some sort of cross between a beer and a

1900
01:28:19,540 --> 01:28:15,620
primate some sort of hybrid animal that

1901
01:28:21,580 --> 01:28:19,550
has amazing senses beyond anything that

1902
01:28:24,730 --> 01:28:21,590
we have obviously and we can't pin down

1903
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:24,740
exactly how good they are but we know

1904
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:27,530
that they're fantastic and they hunt

1905
01:28:35,710 --> 01:28:33,050
that they bury their their own kind and

1906
01:28:37,660 --> 01:28:35,720
then the question is you know are they

1907
01:28:39,340 --> 01:28:37,670
interdimensional because then we don't

1908
01:28:41,899 --> 01:28:39,350
ever we don't have a hope in hell of

1909
01:28:44,449 --> 01:28:41,909
really

1910
01:28:46,270 --> 01:28:44,459
assuring them but coming back to my

1911
01:28:48,859 --> 01:28:46,280
point of how we try and solve this and

1912
01:28:50,989 --> 01:28:48,869
the finding bigfoot' show great it's

1913
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:50,999
great it's great to hear these

1914
01:28:54,770 --> 01:28:53,010
eyewitnesses its you see these guys than

1915
01:28:58,729 --> 01:28:54,780
this the wood knocking they go out there

1916
01:29:01,850 --> 01:28:58,739
but there are as loud as hell and coming

1917
01:29:03,409 --> 01:29:01,860
from a military background when you do

1918
01:29:05,959 --> 01:29:03,419
anything out in the forest you're trying

1919
01:29:08,419 --> 01:29:05,969
stalk anything hunt down anything you've

1920
01:29:10,959 --> 01:29:08,429
got to be silent and you've got to be

1921
01:29:14,330 --> 01:29:10,969
out there you've got to be covered in

1922
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:14,340
natural stink so that you there's no

1923
01:29:20,319 --> 01:29:18,090
human smells that can drift at all you

1924
01:29:22,909 --> 01:29:20,329
know beer grills you know this guy I do

1925
01:29:23,509 --> 01:29:22,919
an amazing dude I've hung out with him a

1926
01:29:25,969 --> 01:29:23,519
few times

1927
01:29:28,850 --> 01:29:25,979
they'll send Herman someone pay the guy

1928
01:29:31,100 --> 01:29:28,860
send him in on his own for a month and

1929
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:31,110
he will he'll find something if there's

1930
01:29:37,159 --> 01:29:33,570
something there and the other thing is

1931
01:29:39,890 --> 01:29:37,169
and I I would use technology I would use

1932
01:29:42,469 --> 01:29:39,900
obviously drones now I know that the the

1933
01:29:45,229 --> 01:29:42,479
forest covers is way too hard to sort of

1934
01:29:49,310 --> 01:29:45,239
it's almost impenetrable but I know that

1935
01:29:52,279 --> 01:29:49,320
we create now these mechanical walking

1936
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:52,289
dog type things with cameras on that

1937
01:29:58,489 --> 01:29:56,130
have that unnatural so therefore will

1938
01:30:00,199 --> 01:29:58,499
not be a threat at all now the other

1939
01:30:02,029 --> 01:30:00,209
thing is though we have set up camera

1940
01:30:03,620 --> 01:30:02,039
traps we've set up yadda yadda yadda and

1941
01:30:05,509 --> 01:30:03,630
and you know there's expeditions going

1942
01:30:09,140 --> 01:30:05,519
all the time and still all the only

1943
01:30:14,839 --> 01:30:09,150
thing we seem to be getting footprints

1944
01:30:16,339 --> 01:30:14,849
and audio records of which a dubious at

1945
01:30:18,919 --> 01:30:16,349
best some of these you know and I do I

1946
01:30:20,270 --> 01:30:18,929
have I've I've ordered the audio CDs of

1947
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:20,280
these you know Bigfoot recordings and

1948
01:30:24,919 --> 01:30:22,530
and they're wonderful and you think oh

1949
01:30:26,209 --> 01:30:24,929
man are these real and you know you've

1950
01:30:27,529 --> 01:30:26,219
only got the words of the people that

1951
01:30:29,449 --> 01:30:27,539
create them say yes they are

1952
01:30:31,219 --> 01:30:29,459
you know we submitted tape recorder ups

1953
01:30:32,750 --> 01:30:31,229
we got we didn't get a picture

1954
01:30:34,399 --> 01:30:32,760
we got something weird or there's a

1955
01:30:36,379 --> 01:30:34,409
little bit of a picture there and it's

1956
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:36,389
just sorry frustrating isn't it Jimmy it

1957
01:30:42,770 --> 01:30:40,050
is and see this is this is what well and

1958
01:30:45,790 --> 01:30:42,780
this is where I'm just like a living

1959
01:30:49,879 --> 01:30:45,800
paradox I'm a hypocrite of myself

1960
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:49,889
because the Patterson film if you follow

1961
01:30:54,890 --> 01:30:53,010
G had something like the Patterson film

1962
01:30:58,690 --> 01:30:54,900
in our back pocket

1963
01:31:02,180 --> 01:30:58,700
case closed right case closed so I

1964
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:02,190
recognize I look at that Patterson film

1965
01:31:10,670 --> 01:31:08,010
and it it's real right I don't have

1966
01:31:13,630 --> 01:31:10,680
another way to approach it but on the

1967
01:31:16,700 --> 01:31:13,640
other side all we've got his footprints

1968
01:31:18,950 --> 01:31:16,710
I'll tell you you're talking about

1969
01:31:20,900 --> 01:31:18,960
eyewitnesses Peter O'Toole's son his

1970
01:31:22,700 --> 01:31:20,910
name is Laura can dworkin O'Toole I

1971
01:31:24,290 --> 01:31:22,710
don't know if you've met Lorcan but he's

1972
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:24,300
amazing and you should you should have

1973
01:31:28,070 --> 01:31:26,850
him on your podcast he's he's fantastic

1974
01:31:32,330 --> 01:31:28,080
I can hook you up

1975
01:31:36,830 --> 01:31:32,340
but anyway so Lorcan is with this were

1976
01:31:40,700 --> 01:31:36,840
up in Washington and we come back to the

1977
01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:40,710
site were up at ISA D and we arrive in

1978
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:42,000
the morning it's like 8 o'clock in the

1979
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:44,490
morning and Lorcan's waiting for us to

1980
01:31:49,190 --> 01:31:47,370
arrive Rita and I dude I saw Bigfoot

1981
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:49,200
last night I said what

1982
01:31:56,690 --> 01:31:52,170
this is Peter O'Toole's son by the way

1983
01:32:00,170 --> 01:31:56,700
dead ringer for his dad it's fantastic

1984
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:00,180
the the the voice the face mode anyway

1985
01:32:06,140 --> 01:32:03,210
so he's telling us he said man I got it

1986
01:32:09,020 --> 01:32:06,150
I'm walking last night at 3 o'clock in

1987
01:32:12,650 --> 01:32:09,030
the morning we get this waffle I stop

1988
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:12,660
and we hear it again and I looked and

1989
01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:15,690
out from in front of the van and which

1990
01:32:22,370 --> 01:32:19,920
is next to us we had just parked he said

1991
01:32:24,890 --> 01:32:22,380
out from in front of that van steps

1992
01:32:29,180 --> 01:32:24,900
Bigfoot he's ten foot tall looks down at

1993
01:32:33,380 --> 01:32:29,190
us what yeah man and then he just ran

1994
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:33,390
away now what do you do with that all

1995
01:32:36,230 --> 01:32:33,570
right

1996
01:32:38,510 --> 01:32:36,240
you can't do you call some other weird

1997
01:32:40,610 --> 01:32:38,520
yeah what do you do you know what it's

1998
01:32:42,410 --> 01:32:40,620
it's well tell you what you do it with

1999
01:32:47,570 --> 01:32:42,420
the first thing I always would question

2000
01:32:53,990 --> 01:32:47,580
is but if it's gone if it runs away yeah

2001
01:32:55,850 --> 01:32:54,000
runner you've got to you've got to be

2002
01:32:57,500 --> 01:32:55,860
cut but I think it's all very well are

2003
01:32:59,060 --> 01:32:57,510
saying that and then time and time and

2004
01:33:00,770 --> 01:32:59,070
time again I've spoken to these people

2005
01:33:03,860 --> 01:33:00,780
you go so where was the photo is were

2006
01:33:05,780 --> 01:33:03,870
there just in net shock Reese and I

2007
01:33:07,580 --> 01:33:05,790
remember that shock because it's that

2008
01:33:08,180 --> 01:33:07,590
kind of that shot I told you about what

2009
01:33:10,730 --> 01:33:08,190
they with

2010
01:33:13,790 --> 01:33:10,740
the host earlier earlier tonight you are

2011
01:33:17,660 --> 01:33:13,800
just frozen because you can't you can't

2012
01:33:19,910 --> 01:33:17,670
fathom the the unbelievable the unknown

2013
01:33:21,530 --> 01:33:19,920
and when you when it finally strikes you

2014
01:33:24,440 --> 01:33:21,540
so when these people that are seeing

2015
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:24,450
very freely a sasquatch

2016
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:26,970
they're not grabbing their camera they

2017
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:31,010
are just mouth open get going

2018
01:33:36,050 --> 01:33:34,650
what it's almost like when you see a car

2019
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:36,060
crash or you come across something that

2020
01:33:42,860 --> 01:33:39,090
you that is out of the ordinary for your

2021
01:33:44,900 --> 01:33:42,870
ordinary day what what you're focusing

2022
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:44,910
on suddenly something you know hits you

2023
01:33:51,110 --> 01:33:48,210
out of the blue that is just like weird

2024
01:33:53,390 --> 01:33:51,120
and it stops you and then it's not like

2025
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:53,400
these sasquatches are then like giving

2026
01:33:57,110 --> 01:33:55,770
you a good two to three minutes for you

2027
01:33:59,210 --> 01:33:57,120
to sort of come round and then

2028
01:34:02,420 --> 01:33:59,220
eventually grab your camera you know

2029
01:34:05,480 --> 01:34:02,430
they go like they are oh I've been seen

2030
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:05,490
goodbye I wish they did say goodbye

2031
01:34:11,510 --> 01:34:08,970
that'd be handy but they just go and and

2032
01:34:13,820 --> 01:34:11,520
then we're at a loss but this the story

2033
01:34:16,550 --> 01:34:13,830
you've just said see I'm now I'm back to

2034
01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:16,560
back in the game I'm like they're real

2035
01:34:23,030 --> 01:34:21,450
so how do we get the advantage over them

2036
01:34:25,310 --> 01:34:23,040
that is the key and that's why I am

2037
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:25,320
saying special forces that's why I'm

2038
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:27,690
saying Navy SEAL whatever you want to

2039
01:34:34,310 --> 01:34:30,810
call it SAS the British one get these

2040
01:34:36,710 --> 01:34:34,320
guys in and sitting in there in these

2041
01:34:38,930 --> 01:34:36,720
zones for four weeks hardly moving like

2042
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:38,940
you know fully trained marine snipers

2043
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:40,650
that kind of thing these guys just

2044
01:34:45,140 --> 01:34:43,530
trained to not move or to you know and

2045
01:34:46,250 --> 01:34:45,150
that I think that's the only key I'm

2046
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:46,260
whispering now because I'm worried the

2047
01:34:56,140 --> 01:34:52,890
Bigfoots are listening it's another

2048
01:35:00,260 --> 01:34:56,150
excellent point in that there could be

2049
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:00,270
maybe an interdimensional aspect to this

2050
01:35:07,100 --> 01:35:04,890
and if there is you had just stated and

2051
01:35:09,710 --> 01:35:07,110
I want to get back into that the you ApS

2052
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:09,720
and and the United States Navy's

2053
01:35:15,140 --> 01:35:13,410
position now very publicly we just had

2054
01:35:18,350 --> 01:35:15,150
John Greenwald on the show earlier

2055
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:18,360
tonight who broke this story last week

2056
01:35:24,500 --> 01:35:21,610
and it's a huge story but if the

2057
01:35:28,859 --> 01:35:24,510
interdimensional aspect of our world

2058
01:35:31,049 --> 01:35:28,869
like with UFOs and with Bigfoot and with

2059
01:35:35,490 --> 01:35:31,059
ghosts if one of these dominoes falls

2060
01:35:39,359 --> 01:35:35,500
right then then we're there do do do

2061
01:35:41,790 --> 01:35:39,369
these answers all tie together I think

2062
01:35:44,189 --> 01:35:41,800
they do and I think that is it is gonna

2063
01:35:46,890 --> 01:35:44,199
have the domino effect and I wonder

2064
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:46,900
whether you know that that that is

2065
01:35:51,810 --> 01:35:48,610
what's keeping us from from knowing at

2066
01:35:54,660 --> 01:35:51,820
all is because once one door opens all

2067
01:35:59,310 --> 01:35:54,670
the doors are going to be opened and you

2068
01:36:02,399 --> 01:35:59,320
know I've spoken to two people that that

2069
01:36:04,410 --> 01:36:02,409
think they can astral travel and which

2070
01:36:07,379 --> 01:36:04,420
is a real thing and they can see things

2071
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:07,389
and the met creatures in the astral

2072
01:36:12,390 --> 01:36:10,570
plane you know in in in their super

2073
01:36:14,430 --> 01:36:12,400
consciousness outside of their bodies

2074
01:36:18,780 --> 01:36:14,440
and is that not another dimension and

2075
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:18,790
and or is that between dimensions the

2076
01:36:22,859 --> 01:36:20,770
fact that we can only see this physical

2077
01:36:24,660 --> 01:36:22,869
world and touch this physical world and

2078
01:36:26,399 --> 01:36:24,670
then you see these ancient artifacts of

2079
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:26,409
dimensional doors and things like that

2080
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:28,290
that are brought up all the time and

2081
01:36:36,930 --> 01:36:34,570
ancient astronaut formation and I'm kind

2082
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:36,940
of like have we've been exploring this

2083
01:36:41,549 --> 01:36:39,760
option and this idea of the other worlds

2084
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:41,559
for centuries and that's where theories

2085
01:36:47,430 --> 01:36:44,110
come from that's where the other comes

2086
01:36:49,319 --> 01:36:47,440
from and and that's where cryptozoology

2087
01:36:51,510 --> 01:36:49,329
has its kind of heart because I believe

2088
01:36:55,859 --> 01:36:51,520
these creatures do come from another

2089
01:36:58,140 --> 01:36:55,869
realm and can come to our world and can

2090
01:37:00,270 --> 01:36:58,150
disappear and no biggie no he'll get

2091
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:00,280
back and that's why we can never catch

2092
01:37:04,589 --> 01:37:02,650
up with them and are they linked they've

2093
01:37:07,770 --> 01:37:04,599
gotta be I mean you know there is

2094
01:37:09,569 --> 01:37:07,780
definite links between the UFOs and the

2095
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:09,579
sasquatches I'm not saying that they're

2096
01:37:13,109 --> 01:37:11,050
on all the crafts because that's

2097
01:37:14,549 --> 01:37:13,119
certainly not the case but there's got

2098
01:37:16,740 --> 01:37:14,559
to be something there and then there's

2099
01:37:19,799 --> 01:37:16,750
those crashes there's the obviously

2100
01:37:22,589 --> 01:37:19,809
Rendell Rendlesham forest but then

2101
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:22,599
there's the the ones in the States and

2102
01:37:28,530 --> 01:37:26,650
in Russia whereby you know big lights in

2103
01:37:32,069 --> 01:37:28,540
the sky a crash through a forest and

2104
01:37:33,629 --> 01:37:32,079
then a weird being is found and the

2105
01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:33,639
weird being somehow gets back somehow

2106
01:37:36,070 --> 01:37:34,880
gets away so why

2107
01:37:38,140 --> 01:37:36,080
they need a craft to get here in the

2108
01:37:39,750 --> 01:37:38,150
first place or is that the cheap way of

2109
01:37:42,430 --> 01:37:39,760
getting through you can get through

2110
01:37:44,470 --> 01:37:42,440
using a craft which has got special

2111
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:44,480
technology if you don't have the

2112
01:37:50,379 --> 01:37:46,370
mystical powers of getting through with

2113
01:37:54,129 --> 01:37:50,389
your own body I don't know it's mind

2114
01:37:56,620 --> 01:37:54,139
boggling but it also gives us something

2115
01:37:58,510 --> 01:37:56,630
else to think about in terms of the fact

2116
01:38:01,209 --> 01:37:58,520
that they're not just here on our planet

2117
01:38:02,649 --> 01:38:01,219
and hiding because that that's good it's

2118
01:38:04,780 --> 01:38:02,659
worrying a little thin don't you think

2119
01:38:07,689 --> 01:38:04,790
and that's where the percentage of you

2120
01:38:09,310 --> 01:38:07,699
like the on the situation comes from

2121
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:09,320
because you're thinking dude

2122
01:38:14,100 --> 01:38:12,290
yes it's 2020 next year and this stuff

2123
01:38:18,300 --> 01:38:14,110
had started happening in the 30s and 40s

2124
01:38:22,870 --> 01:38:18,310
and we still haven't found them come on

2125
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:22,880
look at pandas right yeah pandas was a

2126
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:32,530
yes you know and here's here's where my

2127
01:38:37,689 --> 01:38:34,130
experience came in because I went and

2128
01:38:39,490 --> 01:38:37,699
found the mountain gorillas and you can

2129
01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:39,500
if listeners are digging me and they

2130
01:38:44,860 --> 01:38:41,360
want to check that out it's on YouTube I

2131
01:38:47,410 --> 01:38:44,870
went to Rwanda look up Rhys Darby Rwanda

2132
01:38:48,939 --> 01:38:47,420
and I was on a show called intrepid

2133
01:38:51,370 --> 01:38:48,949
journeys where they sent me there

2134
01:38:52,990 --> 01:38:51,380
because they thought I you know it was a

2135
01:38:54,939 --> 01:38:53,000
TV show in New Zealand and we sort of

2136
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:54,949
take celebrities and we put them in a

2137
01:38:59,050 --> 01:38:56,330
weird place where they're uncomfortable

2138
01:39:01,470 --> 01:38:59,060
and we you know we enjoy how they behave

2139
01:39:04,030 --> 01:39:01,480
now of course I absolutely loved it and

2140
01:39:07,899 --> 01:39:04,040
part of the part of the mission for me

2141
01:39:10,330 --> 01:39:07,909
was we we got to trek through the

2142
01:39:12,430 --> 01:39:10,340
jungles for five hours

2143
01:39:13,930 --> 01:39:12,440
until we found a pack of mountain

2144
01:39:16,629 --> 01:39:13,940
gorillas and it was the most glorious

2145
01:39:19,229 --> 01:39:16,639
thing I've ever experienced but they

2146
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:19,239
were hard to find

2147
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:23,090
we had a tracker we had a localize who

2148
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:26,330
also spoke gorilla and this is all in

2149
01:39:31,030 --> 01:39:28,370
the doc oh that's on YouTube you'll see

2150
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:31,040
me speaking gorilla learning language

2151
01:39:35,530 --> 01:39:33,530
and it was a simple point whereby the

2152
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:35,540
gorillas and the humans the trekkers the

2153
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:37,730
the guys that follow them everywhere

2154
01:39:40,450 --> 01:39:38,810
because of course they're very

2155
01:39:42,430 --> 01:39:40,460
endangered and of course poaching and

2156
01:39:44,740 --> 01:39:42,440
stuff so they have essentially their own

2157
01:39:47,140 --> 01:39:44,750
human guards that follow the different

2158
01:39:48,580 --> 01:39:47,150
gorilla groups and keep their distance

2159
01:39:51,339 --> 01:39:48,590
but they are

2160
01:39:54,370 --> 01:39:51,349
the Arizona as a as a watchful eye to

2161
01:39:58,479 --> 01:39:54,380
make sure you know no one attacks the

2162
01:40:00,339 --> 01:39:58,489
guerrilla group we we had this set up

2163
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:00,349
for us and eventually we found the

2164
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:03,770
guerrilla group and then I witnessed the

2165
01:40:09,820 --> 01:40:07,130
human and the guerrilla guard who was a

2166
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:09,830
tree communicating and the guerrilla

2167
01:40:13,930 --> 01:40:11,690
guard was essentially letting us know

2168
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:13,940
that yes we could come through and

2169
01:40:19,780 --> 01:40:16,489
observe no you only get an hour and it

2170
01:40:20,950 --> 01:40:19,790
was a series of hoots a series of sort

2171
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:20,960
of like I don't want to do it all now

2172
01:40:23,970 --> 01:40:22,489
it's going back a few years and I won't

2173
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:23,980
do it accurately but there was some

2174
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:29,210
guttural vocalizations that that both

2175
01:40:37,330 --> 01:40:34,010
human and gorillas interacted with that

2176
01:40:39,490 --> 01:40:37,340
allowed us to then inter and I was blown

2177
01:40:41,350 --> 01:40:39,500
away by this as I'm sure some listeners

2178
01:40:43,570 --> 01:40:41,360
out here tonight that we have that

2179
01:40:45,339 --> 01:40:43,580
communication and so we went in and we

2180
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:45,349
observed them they were playing with

2181
01:40:48,220 --> 01:40:47,090
their babies they were like they let us

2182
01:40:49,930 --> 01:40:48,230
you know there was it you had to be a

2183
01:40:51,580 --> 01:40:49,940
certain distance away and they just they

2184
01:40:54,070 --> 01:40:51,590
sort of are on show and then and then we

2185
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:54,080
had to leave and you know people pay pay

2186
01:40:58,990 --> 01:40:57,170
to see this as a tourism thing for a for

2187
01:41:02,560 --> 01:40:59,000
these countries which is a massive

2188
01:41:05,709 --> 01:41:02,570
revenue for them and then every time and

2189
01:41:07,930 --> 01:41:05,719
then the guru group which by the way

2190
01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:07,940
there's like eight or eight major groups

2191
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:09,440
I mean these numbers numbers are

2192
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:11,810
diminishing every year but that

2193
01:41:16,689 --> 01:41:14,690
particular group of this family group of

2194
01:41:19,510 --> 01:41:16,699
gorillas then would up sticks you know

2195
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:19,520
that that they'd move on because they

2196
01:41:24,790 --> 01:41:22,730
they are they're constantly moving so

2197
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:24,800
then I start to think okay so if the

2198
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:27,050
Sasquatch thing is a reality Road that's

2199
01:41:31,330 --> 01:41:29,210
what these groups are doing they are

2200
01:41:33,220 --> 01:41:31,340
moving constantly they're migrating

2201
01:41:36,399 --> 01:41:33,230
they're always on the move they can hear

2202
01:41:39,609 --> 01:41:36,409
us for hundreds of not hundreds of miles

2203
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:39,619
but certainly who knows hear us miles

2204
01:41:45,070 --> 01:41:42,290
and miles away and they have Scouts they

2205
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:45,080
have people on point that can know when

2206
01:41:49,300 --> 01:41:46,489
we're coming and they come and they move

2207
01:41:51,970 --> 01:41:49,310
their group that's that's what I'm

2208
01:41:54,850 --> 01:41:51,980
saying from an experience point of view

2209
01:41:57,850 --> 01:41:54,860
and from a military point of view that

2210
01:42:02,200 --> 01:41:57,860
if we are going to ever track these

2211
01:42:03,610 --> 01:42:02,210
things down that we have to use all our

2212
01:42:06,580 --> 01:42:03,620
all our all our powers and all our

2213
01:42:08,470 --> 01:42:06,590
strategies to to do it properly

2214
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:08,480
do it professionally do it in a very

2215
01:42:12,939 --> 01:42:10,250
minimal minimalistic way I'm talking

2216
01:42:16,750 --> 01:42:12,949
like a 2 or 3 Man Group two or three

2217
01:42:19,300 --> 01:42:16,760
person group I should say and find find

2218
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:19,310
them and and make sure they know and I

2219
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:21,170
am assuming if they're the same as the

2220
01:42:27,850 --> 01:42:23,449
the great mountain gorillas that they

2221
01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:27,860
will be welcoming and they will be the

2222
01:42:32,350 --> 01:42:30,400
gentle giants and we already know that

2223
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:32,360
you know Sasquatch are thought to be the

2224
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:33,650
same kind of thing although there are

2225
01:42:37,899 --> 01:42:35,210
some horror stories as well but that's

2226
01:42:41,260 --> 01:42:37,909
that's life but I think there will be

2227
01:42:43,390 --> 01:42:41,270
they will they want to connect but they

2228
01:42:45,370 --> 01:42:43,400
are scared that they are going to be

2229
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:45,380
wiped out and so that's what we have to

2230
01:42:55,750 --> 01:42:52,130
soul stop there is there is a certain

2231
01:42:58,180 --> 01:42:55,760
folklore mythology and reports with just

2232
01:43:01,950 --> 01:42:58,190
about every culture and every continent

2233
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:01,960
on on this planet with the reference to

2234
01:43:07,090 --> 01:43:04,610
Bigfoot right I'm not wrong about that

2235
01:43:11,140 --> 01:43:07,100
what about New Zealand have there been

2236
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:11,150
Bigfoot sightings in New Zealand not not

2237
01:43:14,830 --> 01:43:13,250
so much in New Zealand not not on our

2238
01:43:16,780 --> 01:43:14,840
recent history of course as you know

2239
01:43:19,300 --> 01:43:16,790
we're a young country there's been there

2240
01:43:21,610 --> 01:43:19,310
was there was one the harem oh how they

2241
01:43:24,130 --> 01:43:21,620
called it it was sightings I think in

2242
01:43:26,350 --> 01:43:24,140
the cities but then there was also a

2243
01:43:29,110 --> 01:43:26,360
report around that time of an escaped

2244
01:43:32,110 --> 01:43:29,120
gorilla from a local circuit so matched

2245
01:43:34,930 --> 01:43:32,120
up so yeah we don't we don't have so

2246
01:43:37,899 --> 01:43:34,940
much that in our nation but of course

2247
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:37,909
Australia just across the ditch they

2248
01:43:42,669 --> 01:43:40,730
have the Yowie which they get reports

2249
01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:42,679
quite often and of course Australia a

2250
01:43:51,399 --> 01:43:46,880
huge huge country they definitely have

2251
01:43:55,169 --> 01:43:51,409
their own mystic man of the forest and

2252
01:43:57,370 --> 01:43:55,179
there has been a lot of I mean a lot of

2253
01:43:59,740 --> 01:43:57,380
reports of lights in the sky and then

2254
01:44:02,169 --> 01:43:59,750
you've get this this Bigfoot sighting

2255
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:02,179
and this correlation between the two and

2256
01:44:09,929 --> 01:44:04,610
then we have a case like the Dyatlov

2257
01:44:13,799 --> 01:44:09,939
pass incident in Russia which had all of

2258
01:44:15,299 --> 01:44:13,809
certainly people were killed but oh yeah

2259
01:44:18,330 --> 01:44:15,309
I've heard about this this is quite the

2260
01:44:22,250 --> 01:44:18,340
horrific one right yes and UFO sightings

2261
01:44:25,850 --> 01:44:22,260
lights in the sky for a few days before

2262
01:44:29,580 --> 01:44:25,860
the incident happened and then of course

2263
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:29,590
the attack on the campsite there with

2264
01:44:36,779 --> 01:44:32,050
the hikers which were all college

2265
01:44:38,549 --> 01:44:36,789
students but it had all of those

2266
01:44:43,020 --> 01:44:38,559
ingredients it had the lights in the sky

2267
01:44:47,009 --> 01:44:43,030
of course the I don't want to say murder

2268
01:44:52,589 --> 01:44:47,019
up to 12 12 students died that day and

2269
01:44:55,709 --> 01:44:52,599
and the tents were all they either

2270
01:44:58,049 --> 01:44:55,719
ripped their way out from the inside of

2271
01:44:59,549 --> 01:44:58,059
the tents out and then they had the

2272
01:45:02,669 --> 01:44:59,559
damage on the outside of the tents but

2273
01:45:05,609 --> 01:45:02,679
the hikers were all pretty much without

2274
01:45:08,909 --> 01:45:05,619
their clothes right they ran out into

2275
01:45:10,409 --> 01:45:08,919
the snow in their bare feet running from

2276
01:45:13,049 --> 01:45:10,419
something they weren't running from

2277
01:45:16,350 --> 01:45:13,059
themselves it still straight out of the

2278
01:45:19,259 --> 01:45:16,360
sleeping bags exactly and it's still one

2279
01:45:22,649 --> 01:45:19,269
of the most extraordinary cases and I'm

2280
01:45:26,580 --> 01:45:22,659
not so sure if we can dismiss you know

2281
01:45:30,449 --> 01:45:26,590
some type of interdimensional and also a

2282
01:45:34,020 --> 01:45:30,459
UFO type of connection I'm in agreement

2283
01:45:36,029 --> 01:45:34,030
with you there I wanted to ask you okay

2284
01:45:39,169 --> 01:45:36,039
we're heading towards the bottom of the

2285
01:45:42,779 --> 01:45:39,179
hour can you stay for some overtime

2286
01:45:45,390 --> 01:45:42,789
of course okay good because when we come

2287
01:45:48,540 --> 01:45:45,400
back since I want to stand the the the

2288
01:45:50,850 --> 01:45:48,550
crypto side of things and I wanted to

2289
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:50,860
ask you and I wanted to get into this a

2290
01:45:56,009 --> 01:45:53,650
little bit more in depth the where

2291
01:45:59,669 --> 01:45:56,019
monster episode of the x-files and the

2292
01:46:02,209 --> 01:45:59,679
reason for that not the sensational

2293
01:46:05,909 --> 01:46:02,219
Hollywood side of this but this is

2294
01:46:07,819 --> 01:46:05,919
exactly what you like right it's the

2295
01:46:11,909 --> 01:46:07,829
wind

2296
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:11,919
and what it was like to do the role but

2297
01:46:16,259 --> 01:46:13,570
before we get there I want you to do a

2298
01:46:18,810 --> 01:46:16,269
little setup were you selected because

2299
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:18,820
of the cryptid factor right did they

2300
01:46:34,290 --> 01:46:30,150
it is the big question I don't know I

2301
01:46:37,260 --> 01:46:34,300
can only think maybe it's so weird at

2302
01:46:40,860 --> 01:46:37,270
synchronously I tell you how fun was it

2303
01:46:43,410 --> 01:46:40,870
oh dude it was the most amazing thing

2304
01:46:46,020 --> 01:46:43,420
ever I mean I'm in the x-files and not

2305
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:46,030
just the x-files but one of the greatest

2306
01:46:51,390 --> 01:46:50,410
episodes I was so lucky I mean wow what

2307
01:46:55,020 --> 01:46:51,400
an experience

2308
01:46:56,190 --> 01:46:55,030
I can only I can only imagine and part

2309
01:46:58,920 --> 01:46:56,200
of the setup because I'm gonna talk

2310
01:47:04,170 --> 01:46:58,930
about this when we come back is that the

2311
01:47:04,980 --> 01:47:04,180
x-files just like x-files one an x-files

2312
01:47:08,130 --> 01:47:04,990
too by the way

2313
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:08,140
but just like ancient aliens and its

2314
01:47:12,420 --> 01:47:10,930
effect on pop culture outside of the UFO

2315
01:47:14,070 --> 01:47:12,430
community outside of the crypto

2316
01:47:18,210 --> 01:47:14,080
community outside of the conspiracy

2317
01:47:21,570 --> 01:47:18,220
community as exposed the world to these

2318
01:47:24,420 --> 01:47:21,580
questions and the x-files set it up

2319
01:47:29,190 --> 01:47:24,430
beautifully for those out there that may

2320
01:47:32,850 --> 01:47:29,200
not talk about it or or you know discuss

2321
01:47:35,460 --> 01:47:32,860
it or research it suddenly they are

2322
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:35,470
brought into this information and the

2323
01:47:41,430 --> 01:47:38,650
x-files presented it brilliantly and was

2324
01:47:44,130 --> 01:47:41,440
hugely successful and I think it has as

2325
01:47:46,860 --> 01:47:44,140
much to do with the awareness of UFOs

2326
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:46,870
and in all of these subjects today as

2327
01:47:53,970 --> 01:47:50,650
just about anything right absolutely I

2328
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:53,980
mean it is not solely responsible but

2329
01:48:00,570 --> 01:47:58,000
very heavily responsible for the bigger

2330
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:00,580
population of the world that you know

2331
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:05,290
soak up popular culture into believing

2332
01:48:10,620 --> 01:48:08,170
not just believing in the stuff that has

2333
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:10,630
brought up in that show but accepting it

2334
01:48:17,940 --> 01:48:15,330
and as accept and accepting it as an

2335
01:48:22,020 --> 01:48:17,950
alternative truth with the emphasis on

2336
01:48:23,910 --> 01:48:22,030
the word truth because it's okay to want

2337
01:48:26,220 --> 01:48:23,920
to believe which was a big thing because

2338
01:48:29,820 --> 01:48:26,230
Mulder wants to believe and that's

2339
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:29,830
that's a major step forward it's okay to

2340
01:48:34,770 --> 01:48:32,410
want to believe you're not a kook you're

2341
01:48:37,390 --> 01:48:34,780
not weird and even if you are weird look

2342
01:48:39,970 --> 01:48:37,400
on weird where it's cool but it's

2343
01:48:43,060 --> 01:48:39,980
acceptable and then when take the next

2344
01:48:45,729 --> 01:48:43,070
step and we start to really get to the

2345
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:45,739
truth and x-files is the most important

2346
01:48:51,669 --> 01:48:48,730
show I believe in on television for

2347
01:48:54,399 --> 01:48:51,679
gathering the masses and getting us to

2348
01:48:59,410 --> 01:48:54,409
question what this world is all about I

2349
01:49:02,050 --> 01:48:59,420
used to go into the office and in the

2350
01:49:04,419 --> 01:49:02,060
night in mid nineties when x-files just

2351
01:49:06,580 --> 01:49:04,429
started to take off where this was a

2352
01:49:08,350 --> 01:49:06,590
boring office what we talked to me is it

2353
01:49:12,010 --> 01:49:08,360
was a music company and we talked music

2354
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:12,020
and had fun but these subjects not never

2355
01:49:18,550 --> 01:49:14,449
discussed suddenly I'm going into the

2356
01:49:21,729 --> 01:49:18,560
office and everybody's discussing aliens

2357
01:49:23,979 --> 01:49:21,739
and barefoot and ghosts and

2358
01:49:27,820 --> 01:49:23,989
interdimensional and space travel I'm

2359
01:49:30,610 --> 01:49:27,830
like what the entire place I thought how

2360
01:49:32,770 --> 01:49:30,620
cool is this right I'm in my element now

2361
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:32,780
and it's because of this show the

2362
01:49:35,590 --> 01:49:33,650
x-files

2363
01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:35,600
let's take our break right here we got

2364
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:37,280
to do it our guest tonight

2365
01:49:43,149 --> 01:49:40,400
Rhys Darby this is show one one one one

2366
01:49:44,979 --> 01:49:43,159
special show special guest I'm yours

2367
01:49:49,860 --> 01:49:44,989
Jimmy Church we'll be right back after

2368
01:49:49,870 --> 01:49:57,969
[Music]

2369
01:50:01,689 --> 01:49:59,979
welcome back baby black I'm real stupid

2370
01:50:04,239 --> 01:50:01,699
Church so I guess tonight Rhys Darby and

2371
01:50:07,209 --> 01:50:04,249
right before the break and I was

2372
01:50:09,790 --> 01:50:07,219
watching Twitter yes and everybody

2373
01:50:12,219 --> 01:50:09,800
wanted to get questions answered on the

2374
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:12,229
x-files episode and certainly for

2375
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:15,530
everybody that would be the dream gig

2376
01:50:20,949 --> 01:50:17,570
but for me

2377
01:50:23,739 --> 01:50:20,959
Rhys I feel that Chris Carter's in the

2378
01:50:26,169 --> 01:50:23,749
know I think he's been read in I think

2379
01:50:28,419 --> 01:50:26,179
he's got some knowledge and I think he

2380
01:50:30,819 --> 01:50:28,429
takes this very serious the where

2381
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:30,829
monster skully meets the where monster

2382
01:50:37,330 --> 01:50:34,010
episode funny right had to be there was

2383
01:50:43,330 --> 01:50:37,340
elements of that but there are so much

2384
01:50:45,580 --> 01:50:43,340
of the knowledge of crypto and and

2385
01:50:48,850 --> 01:50:45,590
werewolf's and the Wolfman and this kind

2386
01:50:50,949 --> 01:50:48,860
of thing was very accurate and I think

2387
01:50:52,779 --> 01:50:50,959
he takes it very serious what was the

2388
01:50:54,609 --> 01:50:52,789
atmosphere around there there's the

2389
01:50:56,549 --> 01:50:54,619
comedy side of it that that came through

2390
01:50:59,649 --> 01:50:56,559
in the episode and it's great but

2391
01:51:02,949 --> 01:50:59,659
there's another part of it where I think

2392
01:51:08,140 --> 01:51:02,959
they take this very very serious what

2393
01:51:11,229 --> 01:51:08,150
was that like well I really I mean I

2394
01:51:14,350 --> 01:51:11,239
couldn't believe I got this part I I do

2395
01:51:16,029 --> 01:51:14,360
a lot of you know big auditions and you

2396
01:51:22,089 --> 01:51:16,039
know most of them I'm I'm inappropriate

2397
01:51:24,250 --> 01:51:22,099
for whether it be true detective or it

2398
01:51:25,449 --> 01:51:24,260
cracks me up just mentioning it things

2399
01:51:26,739 --> 01:51:25,459
like then I'm thinking now I'm not gonna

2400
01:51:29,859 --> 01:51:26,749
get this you know I'm married from

2401
01:51:32,140 --> 01:51:29,869
Flight of the Conchords but then this

2402
01:51:35,229 --> 01:51:32,150
one came along and of course my

2403
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:35,239
obsession with the subject matter really

2404
01:51:40,089 --> 01:51:38,090
sort of clicked my brain into okay try

2405
01:51:42,339 --> 01:51:40,099
hard here Reese this is the one if you

2406
01:51:44,859 --> 01:51:42,349
get this row you're in the game you're

2407
01:51:47,350 --> 01:51:44,869
in the game brother you deserve it and

2408
01:51:48,939 --> 01:51:47,360
so I went along and you know I did the

2409
01:51:51,399 --> 01:51:48,949
order shows only a little bit that we

2410
01:51:53,500 --> 01:51:51,409
could audition with it was a small

2411
01:51:56,049 --> 01:51:53,510
segment we weren't a very top secret you

2412
01:51:59,410 --> 01:51:56,059
know and Chris was there

2413
01:52:01,899 --> 01:51:59,420
and Darren Morgan was there as well and

2414
01:52:04,390 --> 01:52:01,909
then I did my bit and it was it was a

2415
01:52:07,959 --> 01:52:04,400
fairly serious bit there the the the

2416
01:52:10,460 --> 01:52:07,969
small segment from the writing which was

2417
01:52:12,860 --> 01:52:10,470
where he changed

2418
01:52:15,050 --> 01:52:12,870
into into a creature who had just come

2419
01:52:17,270 --> 01:52:15,060
or just changed into a human I can't

2420
01:52:18,830 --> 01:52:17,280
remember which but it was it might not

2421
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:18,840
have even had been that because I might

2422
01:52:21,530 --> 01:52:20,490
have been it may have been that but

2423
01:52:24,010 --> 01:52:21,540
there was you know because there's a

2424
01:52:26,270 --> 01:52:24,020
mess of twist in this episode obviously

2425
01:52:29,510 --> 01:52:26,280
and so that was not going to be revealed

2426
01:52:31,370 --> 01:52:29,520
and the tiny audition piece that I'm

2427
01:52:34,010 --> 01:52:31,380
sure a few people got and so I thought

2428
01:52:38,950 --> 01:52:34,020
okay I can't be the only one auditioning

2429
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:38,960
here I did the bit and then I left and I

2430
01:52:45,740 --> 01:52:43,050
felt it went well and as I'm working out

2431
01:52:49,630 --> 01:52:45,750
someone ran after me and they said can

2432
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:49,640
you shave the mo off and I'm like yeah

2433
01:52:54,860 --> 01:52:51,770
[Music]

2434
01:52:57,050 --> 01:52:54,870
yeah of you why you couldn't kidding me

2435
01:52:59,870 --> 01:52:57,060
oh now that's the final straw I'm sorry

2436
01:53:02,450 --> 01:52:59,880
I love piles of a stash has to stay I

2437
01:53:04,490 --> 01:53:02,460
said no I said yeah of course and then I

2438
01:53:07,550 --> 01:53:04,500
walked and I thought to myself okay

2439
01:53:10,910 --> 01:53:07,560
there's no way if they yeah they're

2440
01:53:12,440 --> 01:53:10,920
thinking seriously about me here and so

2441
01:53:15,380 --> 01:53:12,450
I got home and by the time I got home

2442
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:15,390
I'd got it and I got the phone call and

2443
01:53:21,410 --> 01:53:17,250
they said and by the way you can keep

2444
01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:21,420
the mustache so I had it I was I got it

2445
01:53:29,450 --> 01:53:23,520
and then after I fainted and got up

2446
01:53:31,460 --> 01:53:29,460
again I I thought why and then and then

2447
01:53:36,610 --> 01:53:31,470
talking about the seriousness of the

2448
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:36,620
subject matter I went to the job I

2449
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:38,970
learnt my lines and by the way there was

2450
01:53:44,390 --> 01:53:41,370
a lot of them and this is I'm an actor

2451
01:53:47,810 --> 01:53:44,400
that I'd predominantly do comedy and I

2452
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:47,820
predominantly within my comedy acting or

2453
01:53:54,590 --> 01:53:50,130
at least not so much predominantly but

2454
01:53:57,440 --> 01:53:54,600
certainly a 50% I ad-lib

2455
01:54:01,070 --> 01:53:57,450
because I add comedy and I and they and

2456
01:54:02,330 --> 01:54:01,080
and the the people that hire me get me

2457
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:02,340
for that reason because I make things

2458
01:54:07,070 --> 01:54:03,840
even funnier than they are on the page

2459
01:54:09,650 --> 01:54:07,080
so here I am now in what essentially is

2460
01:54:11,480 --> 01:54:09,660
a drama and I'm thinking alright no one

2461
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:11,490
prop here dubs this is what I call

2462
01:54:16,850 --> 01:54:14,010
myself dubs or the dab Meister if it's a

2463
01:54:20,540 --> 01:54:16,860
party and so here I am and I've got to

2464
01:54:21,890 --> 01:54:20,550
do the words beautifully written words

2465
01:54:24,540 --> 01:54:21,900
by Darren you know the Emmy

2466
01:54:29,629 --> 01:54:24,550
award-winning director writer

2467
01:54:33,870 --> 01:54:29,639
this particular episode a genius x-files

2468
01:54:36,750 --> 01:54:33,880
people love them and so just concentrate

2469
01:54:39,140 --> 01:54:36,760
hard Rhys do it just be the sky

2470
01:54:43,410 --> 01:54:39,150
don't be funny yeah you not hired

2471
01:54:45,629 --> 01:54:43,420
because you're funny this time and as we

2472
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:45,639
start to do it I'm working with David

2473
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:47,650
Duchovny in the graveyard

2474
01:54:52,260 --> 01:54:50,530
I'm got a big monologue and I'm going

2475
01:54:54,450 --> 01:54:52,270
back and forth with him it's an intense

2476
01:54:58,799 --> 01:54:54,460
scene darren goes

2477
01:55:02,040 --> 01:54:58,809
just be yourself more be be funny and

2478
01:55:04,169 --> 01:55:02,050
I'm like okay so I without even

2479
01:55:07,410 --> 01:55:04,179
improvising still sticking to the words

2480
01:55:09,709 --> 01:55:07,420
just that little bit of direction let me

2481
01:55:12,479 --> 01:55:09,719
get a bit loosey-goosey and a bit more

2482
01:55:12,750 --> 01:55:12,489
silly because I am silly that's what I

2483
01:55:16,319 --> 01:55:12,760
do

2484
01:55:18,060 --> 01:55:16,329
and it worked and Darren just gives me

2485
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:18,070
the thumbs up and goes this is where

2486
01:55:22,140 --> 01:55:19,690
we're heading this is it and then the

2487
01:55:25,470 --> 01:55:22,150
whole thing opened up to me the magic of

2488
01:55:28,410 --> 01:55:25,480
this episode is that yes it is bizarre

2489
01:55:31,260 --> 01:55:28,420
of course they all are but it's a to be

2490
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:31,270
funny and the treat there can be murder

2491
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:33,130
there can be horror and there can be a

2492
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:35,730
lot of dealt you know molders absolutely

2493
01:55:46,729 --> 01:55:40,090
getting his beliefs here but he's

2494
01:55:50,430 --> 01:55:46,739
confronted with this guy me who is being

2495
01:55:51,780 --> 01:55:50,440
weird and when I you know I don't want

2496
01:55:53,220 --> 01:55:51,790
to give away the plot there's got to be

2497
01:55:56,399 --> 01:55:53,230
one or two people that haven't seen it

2498
01:55:58,709 --> 01:55:56,409
here I don't so wanna do that too as

2499
01:56:02,209 --> 01:55:58,719
well I'm gonna hold off on that but the

2500
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:02,219
tourists at the twist at the end which

2501
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:04,090
everybody if you haven't seen it go and

2502
01:56:10,859 --> 01:56:07,090
check it out but leading up to that the

2503
01:56:12,780 --> 01:56:10,869
comedy and the way that the question

2504
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:12,790
marks let's leave it there right let's

2505
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:15,130
just say the question works were were

2506
01:56:21,209 --> 01:56:18,610
we're still there my character being

2507
01:56:24,299 --> 01:56:21,219
funny being the predicament that I ended

2508
01:56:27,299 --> 01:56:24,309
up my character was in became you know

2509
01:56:29,879 --> 01:56:27,309
so funny to him so weird because he was

2510
01:56:32,459 --> 01:56:29,889
so out of what he normally is I'm trying

2511
01:56:33,899 --> 01:56:32,469
not to give away ro things listeners I

2512
01:56:37,379 --> 01:56:33,909
like you look dude we know what happened

2513
01:56:38,430 --> 01:56:37,389
but you know and then I and then there

2514
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:38,440
was a situation

2515
01:56:43,770 --> 01:56:40,210
honestly if there's listeners that

2516
01:56:46,290 --> 01:56:43,780
haven't seen this episode I to do

2517
01:56:49,350 --> 01:56:46,300
something with Scully that the fans

2518
01:56:51,270 --> 01:56:49,360
would just it would blow their minds and

2519
01:56:54,270 --> 01:56:51,280
did blow their minds and I was like how

2520
01:56:57,930 --> 01:56:54,280
did I get to that point yeah the illness

2521
01:57:02,570 --> 01:56:57,940
and be do this situation this great

2522
01:57:07,010 --> 01:57:02,580
scene with Scully that that had a lot of

2523
01:57:16,260 --> 01:57:07,020
people all around the planet going you

2524
01:57:18,420 --> 01:57:16,270
lucky with these two well I think I said

2525
01:57:20,850 --> 01:57:18,430
to you I'll just repeat it because I

2526
01:57:23,010 --> 01:57:20,860
think I said this year I said look you

2527
01:57:25,500 --> 01:57:23,020
know you're at the actors retirement

2528
01:57:27,990 --> 01:57:25,510
home in Studio City right and you guys

2529
01:57:31,260 --> 01:57:28,000
are sitting around the table bragging

2530
01:57:34,229 --> 01:57:31,270
and it you know and some you know hey

2531
01:57:36,959 --> 01:57:34,239
man I was in you know III did this I was

2532
01:57:38,700 --> 01:57:36,969
in 2001 I was in The Godfather okay and

2533
01:57:42,180 --> 01:57:38,710
it comes around to you well I had my

2534
01:57:45,030 --> 01:57:42,190
scene with Scully you'll always have

2535
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:45,040
that and you that you can you can stop

2536
01:57:51,090 --> 01:57:48,370
the room with that that was a pretty

2537
01:57:54,900 --> 01:57:51,100
extraordinary scene where yeah that life

2538
01:57:58,439 --> 01:57:54,910
is complete right for the nerd boy I

2539
01:58:00,660 --> 01:57:58,449
mean you know and then this has happened

2540
01:58:02,490 --> 01:58:00,670
to me and a few times in my life where

2541
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:02,500
I'm thinking and we talk you know

2542
01:58:06,689 --> 01:58:04,690
briefly mentions synchronicity and and

2543
01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:06,699
the belief that if you believe in

2544
01:58:10,140 --> 01:58:08,110
something and if you if you want

2545
01:58:11,580 --> 01:58:10,150
something that's like Jim Carrey writing

2546
01:58:13,500 --> 01:58:11,590
out that 10 million dollar check to

2547
01:58:15,180 --> 01:58:13,510
himself and then and then you know and

2548
01:58:17,430 --> 01:58:15,190
then becoming the biggest movie star in

2549
01:58:19,020 --> 01:58:17,440
the world a bit later and that's just

2550
01:58:20,670 --> 01:58:19,030
one thing that because I have worked

2551
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:20,680
with him and I've spoken to him and and

2552
01:58:25,500 --> 01:58:22,330
and there's a kind of a you know a

2553
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:25,510
mystical realm of self belief and of

2554
01:58:30,060 --> 01:58:27,850
this kind of thing where if if things

2555
01:58:33,780 --> 01:58:30,070
you know if you want something hard

2556
01:58:37,290 --> 01:58:33,790
enough and you and you make the right

2557
01:58:39,810 --> 01:58:37,300
moves and you step outside yourself and

2558
01:58:41,910 --> 01:58:39,820
make the universe work for you then

2559
01:58:43,620 --> 01:58:41,920
things can happen and you know this

2560
01:58:44,970 --> 01:58:43,630
sounds great in theory and then you meet

2561
01:58:46,620 --> 01:58:44,980
people that go argue whatever made I

2562
01:58:50,610 --> 01:58:46,630
want it to be a spaceman it never

2563
01:58:52,300 --> 01:58:50,620
happened well you know it's it's what

2564
01:58:56,710 --> 01:58:52,310
the universe speaks to you

2565
01:58:58,360 --> 01:58:56,720
first that you then want and then you go

2566
01:59:01,780 --> 01:58:58,370
all out and no matter where you're from

2567
01:59:04,570 --> 01:59:01,790
and look I'm from a small town in a tiny

2568
01:59:06,310 --> 01:59:04,580
country next to Antarctica and I got to

2569
01:59:09,220 --> 01:59:06,320
be on the x-files

2570
01:59:11,500 --> 01:59:09,230
so it's about I don't know where I'm

2571
01:59:14,890 --> 01:59:11,510
going with this point but all I want to

2572
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:14,900
say is anything can happen and that's

2573
01:59:25,270 --> 01:59:20,810
proof enough that nothing here is as it

2574
01:59:30,690 --> 01:59:25,280
seems because that is just not right but

2575
01:59:33,580 --> 01:59:30,700
it is so right I did it and I wanna

2576
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:33,590
close I'm gonna find the next dimension

2577
01:59:40,060 --> 01:59:36,410
I'm telling you Jimmy that's where

2578
01:59:42,790 --> 01:59:40,070
that's where I'm going because in the

2579
01:59:48,910 --> 01:59:42,800
first time that I saw what we do in the

2580
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:48,920
shadows I I had to watch it a couple of

2581
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:50,690
times because I didn't know it was

2582
01:59:57,730 --> 01:59:54,490
germane I didn't know it was because of

2583
02:00:01,530 --> 01:59:57,740
the approach in shooting well you shot

2584
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:01,540
up the shadows number one but the makeup

2585
02:00:10,810 --> 02:00:06,170
the convincing acting where everybody

2586
02:00:14,710 --> 02:00:10,820
was in the what's the word I want to say

2587
02:00:17,380 --> 02:00:14,720
in the vampire zone with with an element

2588
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:17,390
of comedy that most people wouldn't

2589
02:00:21,670 --> 02:00:19,850
touch and approach it with this because

2590
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:21,680
you've got to have all the vampire

2591
02:00:27,220 --> 02:00:23,770
folklore you've got to have an

2592
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:27,230
interdimensional you got to have victims

2593
02:00:33,430 --> 02:00:30,290
all of this plays out it's actually at

2594
02:00:35,950 --> 02:00:33,440
moments pretty bleep and scary it gets

2595
02:00:39,270 --> 02:00:35,960
if there's a couple of spots in that but

2596
02:00:43,450 --> 02:00:39,280
yet it's it's a it's a subject matter

2597
02:00:44,950 --> 02:00:43,460
that is again what you do right the this

2598
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:44,960
part of the world that we're trying to

2599
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:49,010
figure out how was the comedy side of

2600
02:00:55,450 --> 02:00:51,890
this written into it was there improv

2601
02:00:59,170 --> 02:00:55,460
you know how did you guys approach you

2602
02:01:02,230 --> 02:00:59,180
know vampirism and killing of people and

2603
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:02,240
and winding in the comedy how did you

2604
02:01:06,069 --> 02:01:05,570
pull that off because it was the coming

2605
02:01:09,609 --> 02:01:06,079
together

2606
02:01:11,979 --> 02:01:09,619
of those worlds so believe it or not and

2607
02:01:14,109 --> 02:01:11,989
this is something that I think a lot of

2608
02:01:17,409 --> 02:01:14,119
people and and this is a good note for

2609
02:01:19,329 --> 02:01:17,419
anyone in the paranormal world who all

2610
02:01:21,129 --> 02:01:19,339
the listeners here tonight who

2611
02:01:23,979 --> 02:01:21,139
particularly the ones that don't want

2612
02:01:26,579 --> 02:01:23,989
comedy in any way shape or form to do

2613
02:01:28,959 --> 02:01:26,589
with you or follow G to do with you know

2614
02:01:30,459 --> 02:01:28,969
anything in the paranormal they don't

2615
02:01:33,669 --> 02:01:30,469
want they don't want your laughs would

2616
02:01:37,449 --> 02:01:33,679
little guess what that is a human state

2617
02:01:40,989 --> 02:01:37,459
comedy releases not only endorphins but

2618
02:01:44,949 --> 02:01:40,999
opens up doorways in your mind that lets

2619
02:01:48,750 --> 02:01:44,959
you see more things and it's a state of

2620
02:01:53,139 --> 02:01:48,760
consciousness that I think reveals more

2621
02:01:57,189 --> 02:01:53,149
opens up truth more because that's what

2622
02:02:00,069 --> 02:01:57,199
comedy is its truth its opening those

2623
02:02:03,369 --> 02:02:00,079
eyewitness doors those windows to see

2624
02:02:05,949 --> 02:02:03,379
you know how harsh something can be by

2625
02:02:08,679 --> 02:02:05,959
exposing it and if it's a way of like

2626
02:02:11,469 --> 02:02:08,689
mocking it or having fun with it then it

2627
02:02:13,329 --> 02:02:11,479
reveals it and you can see from the tone

2628
02:02:16,810 --> 02:02:13,339
and if anyone wants to go back and or

2629
02:02:20,169 --> 02:02:16,820
now listen to my podcast we it's all

2630
02:02:23,229 --> 02:02:20,179
comedy but it's all truth and we believe

2631
02:02:25,239 --> 02:02:23,239
but we we have fun doing so and this

2632
02:02:27,819 --> 02:02:25,249
amount of fun this you can't go into

2633
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:27,829
something you know a hundred percent

2634
02:02:33,429 --> 02:02:31,010
serious without a thought of what could

2635
02:02:35,049 --> 02:02:33,439
go wrong or you know what if we run out

2636
02:02:36,579 --> 02:02:35,059
of petrol what if what if there's a

2637
02:02:40,119 --> 02:02:36,589
language barrier what if something falls

2638
02:02:42,969 --> 02:02:40,129
down and you know comedy happens and

2639
02:02:45,099 --> 02:02:42,979
it's it's a life state and so you have

2640
02:02:46,750 --> 02:02:45,109
to accept it and if you once you do and

2641
02:02:49,569 --> 02:02:46,760
you can pull those different worlds

2642
02:02:52,060 --> 02:02:49,579
together like like we did in that movie

2643
02:02:56,919 --> 02:02:52,070
and indeed Darren did in that x-files

2644
02:02:58,449 --> 02:02:56,929
hip episode you know you you I think

2645
02:03:02,049 --> 02:02:58,459
you're opening it up to a bigger

2646
02:03:03,969 --> 02:03:02,059
audience and it's more acceptable and

2647
02:03:06,159 --> 02:03:03,979
there's a lot of people I try and bring

2648
02:03:08,649 --> 02:03:06,169
people into the paranormal world all the

2649
02:03:10,810 --> 02:03:08,659
time and they go no the people are too

2650
02:03:13,439 --> 02:03:10,820
serious it's too boring you know there's

2651
02:03:17,709 --> 02:03:13,449
three things that talk about you know so

2652
02:03:19,870 --> 02:03:17,719
that's my my force is to try and stop

2653
02:03:22,020 --> 02:03:19,880
that to open it up to more people

2654
02:03:25,080 --> 02:03:22,030
bringing in an entertainment value to it

2655
02:03:28,030 --> 02:03:25,090
an even bigger entertainment value to it

2656
02:03:30,820 --> 02:03:28,040
not mocking the people not mocking the

2657
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:30,830
subject matter but and it's I guess it's

2658
02:03:35,830 --> 02:03:32,090
a difficult task but it's bringing

2659
02:03:41,110 --> 02:03:35,840
comedy in and tasking it in the right

2660
02:03:43,300 --> 02:03:41,120
way so that we can employ it and I that

2661
02:03:45,570 --> 02:03:43,310
actually happens on your show and it

2662
02:03:47,050 --> 02:03:45,580
happens on on coast to coast in general

2663
02:03:49,630 --> 02:03:47,060
so yeah

2664
02:03:52,450 --> 02:03:49,640
you're aware of it it's just important

2665
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:52,460
it's a way to do it I I fight it all the

2666
02:03:58,870 --> 02:03:55,610
time because I think it's very important

2667
02:04:02,470 --> 02:03:58,880
for people like yourself that's right

2668
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:02,480
and the only way to communicate and to

2669
02:04:09,730 --> 02:04:05,930
come off as authentic is to be yourself

2670
02:04:11,770 --> 02:04:09,740
and if I have to hold back on cracking a

2671
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:11,780
joke because naturally it wants to come

2672
02:04:18,190 --> 02:04:15,890
out or for you to have to hold back on

2673
02:04:21,100 --> 02:04:18,200
something funny because it's just the

2674
02:04:23,590 --> 02:04:21,110
natural progression of whatever you're

2675
02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:23,600
at at that moment exactly then you're

2676
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:25,130
not being your situation I'm in right

2677
02:04:29,890 --> 02:04:27,410
and you're not being gently and the

2678
02:04:32,950 --> 02:04:29,900
audience will know that and I can't have

2679
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:32,960
my frontal lobes blocked with with

2680
02:04:38,770 --> 02:04:36,320
self-censorship right yeah I really

2681
02:04:41,230 --> 02:04:38,780
don't care anymore you know I don't even

2682
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:41,240
think about it and look and and and at

2683
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:43,010
the end of the day if stuff does go down

2684
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:45,290
if things get really weird and and

2685
02:04:51,610 --> 02:04:49,010
things do arrive and you know we're in a

2686
02:04:53,620 --> 02:04:51,620
massive panic situation or all the truth

2687
02:04:55,330 --> 02:04:53,630
is revealed and we find out that we have

2688
02:04:57,730 --> 02:04:55,340
to fight something against something you

2689
02:05:03,310 --> 02:04:57,740
know we're gonna need we're gonna need

2690
02:05:05,110 --> 02:05:03,320
humor because not only is a language but

2691
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:05,120
it's a it's a it's a it's a fighting

2692
02:05:08,770 --> 02:05:07,010
mechanism that we can we can force

2693
02:05:11,530 --> 02:05:08,780
against the darkness

2694
02:05:14,250 --> 02:05:11,540
what is darkness in the subject matter

2695
02:05:17,890 --> 02:05:14,260
there's a ton of it and and right now

2696
02:05:19,930 --> 02:05:17,900
with what is going on I mean it's UFOs

2697
02:05:21,900 --> 02:05:19,940
in the mass media right now who would

2698
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:21,910
have thought that we would have arrived

2699
02:05:27,700 --> 02:05:24,490
to the point where we are today

2700
02:05:30,220 --> 02:05:27,710
disclosures the word is it something

2701
02:05:33,850 --> 02:05:30,230
tangible right now for you can you feel

2702
02:05:36,520 --> 02:05:33,860
it oh yeah I can feel it because I'm

2703
02:05:40,359 --> 02:05:36,530
I'm I'm up there with you I'm you know

2704
02:05:43,090 --> 02:05:40,369
I'm reading it I'm watching it I'm

2705
02:05:46,689 --> 02:05:43,100
feeling it and you know I want to be

2706
02:05:49,240 --> 02:05:46,699
involved and I want my side of the way I

2707
02:05:51,729 --> 02:05:49,250
do things to be part of opening doors to

2708
02:05:54,490 --> 02:05:51,739
let other people in and and get them

2709
02:05:56,560 --> 02:05:54,500
involved as well and it's it's a hard

2710
02:05:59,590 --> 02:05:56,570
task because you know I have to do it

2711
02:06:03,910 --> 02:05:59,600
with with a certain amount of subtlety

2712
02:06:08,590 --> 02:06:03,920
but they know that you know I'm not I'm

2713
02:06:13,350 --> 02:06:08,600
not loopy I am a very grounded

2714
02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:13,360
individual and career orientated but

2715
02:06:20,050 --> 02:06:17,090
there's more to life than me going in

2716
02:06:21,970 --> 02:06:20,060
and acting and movies and stuff so

2717
02:06:24,850 --> 02:06:21,980
that's that's where it comes from is the

2718
02:06:26,470 --> 02:06:24,860
planet ready I don't see panic in the

2719
02:06:29,830 --> 02:06:26,480
streets at this point and with all my

2720
02:06:31,930 --> 02:06:29,840
yeah I think we are I think we are and

2721
02:06:33,850 --> 02:06:31,940
you know I put it I've told this to

2722
02:06:35,379 --> 02:06:33,860
people recently and I should end on this

2723
02:06:41,290 --> 02:06:35,389
because I can hear my wife yelling for

2724
02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:41,300
Coco and mine a nice story but I'm

2725
02:06:46,359 --> 02:06:43,610
saying I'm putting it out there 2020

2726
02:06:48,939 --> 02:06:46,369
what a better year the 2020 perfect

2727
02:06:52,810 --> 02:06:48,949
vision the vision that's the year when

2728
02:06:54,220 --> 02:06:52,820
we're set feels like 17 18 and 19 have

2729
02:06:57,580 --> 02:06:54,230
been the build up of this disclosure

2730
02:07:01,390 --> 02:06:57,590
thing I would love if 2020 was the one

2731
02:07:03,010 --> 02:07:01,400
where there when yep okay we're now

2732
02:07:05,620 --> 02:07:03,020
gonna show you who else has been here

2733
02:07:08,140 --> 02:07:05,630
who has been visiting us for millions of

2734
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:08,150
years and I know there's a lot of a lot

2735
02:07:13,660 --> 02:07:10,730
of UFO types who said it's not going to

2736
02:07:15,310 --> 02:07:13,670
be a you know an open door and there's a

2737
02:07:18,879 --> 02:07:15,320
you know dude with feathers that comes

2738
02:07:21,879 --> 02:07:18,889
out but I think if it was going to

2739
02:07:27,070 --> 02:07:21,889
happen 2020 what do you think is gonna

2740
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:27,080
happen this Friday storm briefly

2741
02:07:34,330 --> 02:07:31,010
mentioned there yeah it's two days away

2742
02:07:36,129 --> 02:07:34,340
man you know it's it's it's now

2743
02:07:38,979 --> 02:07:36,139
dissipated into like two or three

2744
02:07:41,649 --> 02:07:38,989
different groups the original guy is now

2745
02:07:44,979 --> 02:07:41,659
doing a night in Las Vegas with his

2746
02:07:46,450 --> 02:07:44,989
bands with these these classified bands

2747
02:07:48,340 --> 02:07:46,460
that he hasn't mentioned I mean it's

2748
02:07:50,850 --> 02:07:48,350
it's all very

2749
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:50,860
secretive and then the original idea

2750
02:07:56,650 --> 02:07:53,690
with people were going to congregate and

2751
02:07:58,450 --> 02:07:56,660
Rachel I believe a town near area 51 I

2752
02:08:01,000 --> 02:07:58,460
think people still going to go there but

2753
02:08:02,530 --> 02:08:01,010
they're you know I hope they are safe

2754
02:08:04,870 --> 02:08:02,540
and they take their own accommodation

2755
02:08:07,270 --> 02:08:04,880
and they don't expect too much and then

2756
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:07,280
it's a peaceful gathering I'm worried

2757
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:09,050
and I know that's why the original guy

2758
02:08:13,540 --> 02:08:10,970
is sort of ducked out of that of that

2759
02:08:15,900 --> 02:08:13,550
idea because it could turn into a you

2760
02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:15,910
know a fire festival situation and so

2761
02:08:21,820 --> 02:08:19,370
now there's another more organized thing

2762
02:08:23,170 --> 02:08:21,830
happening in Vegas I think but given

2763
02:08:25,330 --> 02:08:23,180
these two options and they might even be

2764
02:08:28,690 --> 02:08:25,340
a third one another gathering I think

2765
02:08:30,460 --> 02:08:28,700
somewhere close by as well near 51

2766
02:08:32,740 --> 02:08:30,470
that it's kind of split up and these

2767
02:08:35,980 --> 02:08:32,750
into these functions and so I just

2768
02:08:38,590 --> 02:08:35,990
decided the safer bet is just to not go

2769
02:08:42,190 --> 02:08:38,600
but I am certainly excited to get online

2770
02:08:44,770 --> 02:08:42,200
and just find to hear what goes down and

2771
02:08:46,840 --> 02:08:44,780
I hope that nothing bad happens and I

2772
02:08:48,850 --> 02:08:46,850
really what I loved and write out what I

2773
02:08:51,550 --> 02:08:48,860
wanted was when they did organize when

2774
02:08:53,710 --> 02:08:51,560
they did try and turn it all into a like

2775
02:08:57,220 --> 02:08:53,720
alien stock I thought that was great and

2776
02:08:59,560 --> 02:08:57,230
I thought if that does end up by proxy

2777
02:09:01,240 --> 02:08:59,570
of the just the bodies coming in from

2778
02:09:04,930 --> 02:09:01,250
wherever they're gonna come if something

2779
02:09:06,580 --> 02:09:04,940
like a like a stock happen it's just in

2780
02:09:08,950 --> 02:09:06,590
the way that that Woodstock happened

2781
02:09:10,780 --> 02:09:08,960
where people just came did not expecting

2782
02:09:12,550 --> 02:09:10,790
anything but at the same time expecting

2783
02:09:14,650 --> 02:09:12,560
everything if that naturally happened

2784
02:09:18,610 --> 02:09:14,660
and it was peaceful and it was just a

2785
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:18,620
massive mass of people with the same

2786
02:09:26,380 --> 02:09:24,310
ideas congregating and and and I guess

2787
02:09:30,370 --> 02:09:26,390
then then I that's what I would

2788
02:09:36,310 --> 02:09:30,380
ultimately love but I I'm I I can't go

2789
02:09:38,890 --> 02:09:36,320
no almost it's almost like a morbid kind

2790
02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:38,900
of morose thing to do we're gonna watch

2791
02:09:46,810 --> 02:09:42,290
this play out online and you know with

2792
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:46,820
live Facebook feeds to see how this is

2793
02:09:55,030 --> 02:09:52,130
gonna pan out if there's alcohol and

2794
02:09:57,520 --> 02:09:55,040
drugs involved someone's gonna take a -

2795
02:09:58,840 --> 02:09:57,530
or go you know and I just I'm worried

2796
02:10:01,300 --> 02:09:58,850
and if there's anyone who's listening

2797
02:10:03,700 --> 02:10:01,310
tonight who's got any plans like that

2798
02:10:05,830 --> 02:10:03,710
you know Scapa them don't don't do it

2799
02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:05,840
don't do it and that's that's my biggest

2800
02:10:11,020 --> 02:10:07,490
that's my biggest thing I don't want to

2801
02:10:16,690 --> 02:10:11,030
encourage anything and you know drugs

2802
02:10:19,210 --> 02:10:16,700
alcohol the desert lack of water and the

2803
02:10:21,730 --> 02:10:19,220
the possibilities stemming off of that I

2804
02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:21,740
I'm not comfortable with it I'm just not

2805
02:10:26,590 --> 02:10:24,650
Reese I want to thank you I want to

2806
02:10:28,150 --> 02:10:26,600
thank you for an amazing conversation

2807
02:10:30,670 --> 02:10:28,160
tonight I look forward to not only

2808
02:10:32,830 --> 02:10:30,680
hanging out with you but again but

2809
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:32,840
getting you back on the show where can

2810
02:10:39,340 --> 02:10:36,490
everybody go and find the cryptid factor

2811
02:10:45,420 --> 02:10:39,350
they can find that on on all the podcast

2812
02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:45,430
sites like Spotify and the other ones

2813
02:10:53,500 --> 02:10:49,730
iTunes you know the names escape me I

2814
02:10:55,420 --> 02:10:53,510
will be also so yeah please go back and

2815
02:10:58,450 --> 02:10:55,430
watch listen to my back catalogue

2816
02:11:00,850 --> 02:10:58,460
there's like I say there's ten years of

2817
02:11:02,980 --> 02:11:00,860
this thing it became a cryptid itself

2818
02:11:05,710 --> 02:11:02,990
because the three members are now in

2819
02:11:09,250 --> 02:11:05,720
three different continents in the world

2820
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:09,260
and we try and find each other but we

2821
02:11:14,740 --> 02:11:13,130
have these crazy careers that and that

2822
02:11:19,450 --> 02:11:14,750
don't allow us to get together enough so

2823
02:11:21,310 --> 02:11:19,460
it's if you can if you can find a recent

2824
02:11:24,370 --> 02:11:21,320
episode or if you can find a future one

2825
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:24,380
then well done you please photograph it

2826
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:25,850
make it to make sure it's not blurry and

2827
02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:28,490
and show it to your friends and in the

2828
02:11:35,140 --> 02:11:30,650
future and this is a spoiler I will I

2829
02:11:39,160 --> 02:11:35,150
will be creating a new podcast buttons

2830
02:11:41,890 --> 02:11:39,170
and I so that is coming out hopefully

2831
02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:41,900
before Christmas and that's around the

2832
02:11:48,670 --> 02:11:46,010
alien UFO world so that that's just a

2833
02:11:51,220 --> 02:11:48,680
that's a little bunny teaser there I

2834
02:11:55,740 --> 02:11:51,230
can't wait for it we were hoping it was

2835
02:11:59,370 --> 02:11:55,750
going to be done by now so you're saying

2836
02:12:04,000 --> 02:11:59,380
you're saying you're saying December

2837
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:04,010
yeah thank you so much Rhys enjoy the

2838
02:12:08,500 --> 02:12:06,410
rest of your evening and and thank your

2839
02:12:11,110 --> 02:12:08,510
your wife and your family for allowing

2840
02:12:13,120 --> 02:12:11,120
me to uh steal you away for an evening

2841
02:12:14,340 --> 02:12:13,130
what a great conversation tonight thank

2842
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:14,350
you so much

2843
02:12:26,250 --> 02:12:18,370
I think we lost Rhys Rhys are you still

2844
02:12:30,060 --> 02:12:26,260
there yeah this is technology on live

2845
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:30,070
radio Rhys you dropped out but now you

2846
02:12:36,020 --> 02:12:33,730
can say goodnight you're back okay

2847
02:12:39,890 --> 02:12:36,030
thanks everyone Jimmy what a pleasure

2848
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:39,900
and can't wait to you get together and

2849
02:12:47,130 --> 02:12:42,970
ramble some more I want to get on your

2850
02:12:49,860 --> 02:12:47,140
new podcast and and please tell buttons

2851
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:49,870
I said yo alright thank you so much

2852
02:12:55,770 --> 02:12:53,290
I will right Rhys Darby Thank You Rhys

2853
02:12:59,090 --> 02:12:55,780
Rhys Darby all of Reese's links are

2854
02:13:03,330 --> 02:12:59,100
right there at Jimmy Church radio.com

2855
02:13:05,490 --> 02:13:03,340
and of course Ricci Darby on Twitter

2856
02:13:07,040 --> 02:13:05,500
we've got everything up right there and

2857
02:13:10,380 --> 02:13:07,050
Twitter so you can go and follow Rhys

2858
02:13:14,730 --> 02:13:10,390
right now this this will conclude

2859
02:13:18,330 --> 02:13:14,740
episode number 1111 tomorrow night is

2860
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:18,340
open lines all night long it's going to

2861
02:13:23,430 --> 02:13:19,930
be a great show tomorrow night

2862
02:13:27,300 --> 02:13:23,440
obviously Friday is September 20th with

2863
02:13:30,330 --> 02:13:27,310
the storm area51 event that will be

2864
02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:30,340
playing out on Friday I don't know if

2865
02:13:35,730 --> 02:13:33,370
we're going to do an emergency live

2866
02:13:39,060 --> 02:13:35,740
broadcast on Friday night we'll see how

2867
02:13:42,090 --> 02:13:39,070
things go Friday morning and if

2868
02:13:44,790 --> 02:13:42,100
necessary we'll we'll break in live on

2869
02:13:47,580 --> 02:13:44,800
the network and do a live broadcast on

2870
02:13:49,500 --> 02:13:47,590
Friday night with that I am going to get

2871
02:13:53,370 --> 02:13:49,510
out of here I will hang out with all of

2872
02:13:55,320 --> 02:13:53,380
you tomorrow night live lines open lines

2873
02:13:55,800 --> 02:13:55,330
all night long because it's Thursday

2874
02:14:00,480 --> 02:13:55,810
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2875
02:14:02,760 --> 02:14:00,490
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02:14:05,490 --> 02:14:02,770
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02:14:30,930 --> 02:14:28,780
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02:14:37,740 --> 02:14:34,510
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2891
02:14:38,399 --> 02:14:37,750
everybody tomorrow night until then be

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02:14:43,770 --> 02:14:38,409
safe